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    Question Coordinating Conjunction

    Hello teachers,

    I would like to pick you mind for only one minute about the use of the coordinating conjunction 'and' in bold in the following sentence:

    Though she has lived here for a decade and her husband, a construction worker, makes a decent wage, money cannot buy water (It's an extract from The New York Times).

    Is it not a mistake to use this conjunction in this place? Notwithstanding, I believe I realize well the meaning but indeed you can enlighten my brain (I'm joking) about the utilisation of the coordinating conjunction.

    Do no hesitate to correct my mistakes.

    Thanks and see you soon.

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    Re: Coordinating Conjunction

    Quote Originally Posted by The French View Post
    Hello teachers,

    I would like to pick you mind for only one minute about the use of the coordinating conjunction 'and' in bold in the following sentence:

    Though she has lived here for a decade and her husband, a construction worker, makes a decent wage, money cannot buy water (It's an extract from The New York Times).

    Is it not a mistake to use this conjunction in this place? Notwithstanding, I believe I realize well the meaning but indeed you can enlighten my brain (I'm joking) about the utilisation of the coordinating conjunction.

    Do no hesitate to correct my mistakes.

    Thanks and see you soon.
    Yes, this is correct. What is concerning you about it?

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    Re: Coordinating Conjunction

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    Yes, this is correct. What is concerning you about it?
    Hi teacher Raymott,

    I do not understand the use of this conjunction in this case, can you develop a little you fast and terse reply.

    It is not better to say :
    'Though she has lived here with her husband for a decade...'

    See you later.

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    Re: Coordinating Conjunction

    Hi The French


    Compare it to this simpler sentence:
    Although she was pretty and he was rich, they were not a match made in heaven.

    Though [she has lived here for a decade] and [her husband (a construction worker) makes a decent wage], money cannot buy water.

    Maybe the commas setting off "a construction worker" confused you? I put it in parentheses in my rewrite to make that clearer.

    Your re-write changes the meaning. She has lived her for a decade. She may have only been married to her husband for a year, and he may be a new arrival.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: Coordinating Conjunction

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    Hi The French


    Compare it to this simpler sentence:
    Although she was pretty and he was rich, they were not a match made in heaven.

    Though [she has lived here for a decade] and [her husband (a construction worker) makes a decent wage], money cannot buy water.

    Maybe the commas setting off "a construction worker" confused you? I put it in parentheses in my rewrite to make that clearer.

    Your re-write changes the meaning. She has lived her for a decade. She may have only been married to her husband for a year, and he may be a new arrival.
    Thanks for your reply Barbara,

    Why you wrote the word rewrite with two forms?

    Cordially,

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    Re: Coordinating Conjunction

    Too much haste.

    I don't know why I put the hyphen in the second time. Rewrite is just fine.

    Sorry for the confusion.

    However, did the response eliminate your questions about the original?
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    Question Re: Coordinating Conjunction

    Hello Barbara,

    Yes, your answer has eliminated my doubt. But can you say me what means 'setting off' ?

    I would to know if I have made mistakes in my fist quote, too. I ask you this because I tried to make a more complex sentence and I am not sure it is grammatically good.

    Thanks a lot for your patience.

    The Frenchie.

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    Re: Coordinating Conjunction

    Setting off, in this context, means separating from the rest of the sentence.

    When you include non-restrictive information or parenthetical information (information that could be put inside parentheses and the sentence would work just as well), you set those off with commas (or dashes, or parentheses).
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    Re: Coordinating Conjunction

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    Setting off, in this context, means separating from the rest of the sentence.

    When you include non-restrictive information or parenthetical information (information that could be put inside parentheses and the sentence would work just as well), you set those off with commas (or dashes, or parentheses).
    Hello Barbara, What do you think about the quote I made at the beginning?

    Thanks.

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    Re: Coordinating Conjunction

    The very first one in the thread? It's fine. Take out the part about the construction worker (that part that is set off by commas) and see if that helps.
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