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    Default Re: problem with a tree ( please help )

    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Antonson View Post
    Reed-Kellogg is an American system and is little known outside of the USA.
    It is like a visual language. I find it very easy to use for demonstrating the structure of sentences.
    Here is a website that might work as an introduction to the process. Warning -- it will be very different from tree diagrams (which I don't understand very well at all)
    DIAGRAMMING SENTENCES
    Linguist Farmer

    Thank you very much.

    I've checked the website .. it's very useful
    I'll read it all and learn it as hard as i can =)
    any problem i'll come to Mr. Frank

    Thanks again

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    Cool Re: problem with a tree ( please help )

    Quote Originally Posted by Senpai View Post
    Thanks again .. my sister

    hmmm .. as I said before we can NOT put PP under the S
    I spent all the night on this syntax chap. =(

    i found this:

    S = NP + VP (AUX)

    NP= ....... (PP) ......



    in my sentence we have to put the PP under the NP
    then we'll get NP + VP .. that means we have The S now


    S contains NP, VP (AUX) < optional ... but PP, i don't think so

    that's what i've learnd =(



    if i wrong correct me ... and so sorry .. i think you'll kick me =P


    SORRY again


    Ja ~
    I don't kick people;P
    S = NP + AUX + VP ? says who???
    here are some examples:
    a-This boy can read the text.
    S= NP + can + VP
    .....................|....\
    .....................V....NP
    .........................../.|
    ........................Det.N

    b-Evidently, he fixed the car.
    S= ADVP + NP + AUX + VP
    ..............|........|.......|.............|...\
    ..........ADV......N...................V...NP

    *The man in the classroom. (Xbar Theo)
    N"= Spec + N'
    ................|....\
    ................N.....P"
    ......................|....\
    ......................P......N"
    ............................/..|
    ......................Spec.N'
    .................................|
    ................................N

    c- The man in the classroom believes he is smart.
    true, what you are saying is true.
    Normally, S= NP + AUX + VP, but, what if your sentence was as such?
    That man, on the top of that tree, believes he can fly.

    Notice that PSR recognize 2 levels of structural representation XP
    .................................................. .................................................. ..............................|
    .................................................. .................................................. .............................X
    --> The mechanism does not insure that the subcategorization property of lexical items is satisfied ( Deep & Surface Structures)

    If your professor haven't tackled this point yet, then you get to diagram your sentence as S= NP + AUX + VP
    take care of ADVPs, ADs & especially PNPs & S's.

    Try to diagram this sentence
    John's analysis of the problem is illogical.

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