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    To be with you forever is my dream come true.
    I feel a bit under the weather.
    Most of the time you seem like such a normal guy.

    What does your three diagrams look like?

    And one more:

    I have grown weary of your constant complaining.
    It was rendered ineffective.

    OK, two more.

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    I will work on those. The problem is not the diagrams, but my lack of skill in diagramming with a mouse.
    The words "copula" and "copulative verbs", incidentally, are unfamiliar to Americans. We call them "linking verbs". I am guessing that in teaching students, "copulative" was too close to "copulation" to keep their attention.
    Similarly we usually refer to auxiliary verbs as "helping verbs".
    Back to your sentences, I would treat all of the simple predicates as linking verbs.
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    "Dream" is a predicate nominative.
    But "dream come" is not predication. "Dream" is being modified by the participle "come". It is the past participle of "to come" Today I come, yesterday I came, I have COME".
    In a sentence like "May the day come!" it would be predication. An analogous sentence part would be "...my nightmare repeated endlessly..."

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    There are two copulae in this sentence:

    1. is
    2. come

    Do you agree with me? (I hope)

    Time to go to bed for me. See you in eight hours from now.

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    Yes, I agree.
    "Come" could also be understood as a shortened for of "become". In both cases it would be a past participle modifying "dream".
    Sleep well.
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    Nice work!
    In the first sentence, however, I don't think "to" is understood. Rather "come" is the past participle, hence "come true" is a participial phrase. H&H diagrams participles around the inside of the bend in the line.
    In the second sentence "like" is missing. "Like" is a preposition, and it would work to put the prepositional phrase on a standard as the predicate adjective.
    In the third sentence "complaining" is a gerund. In H&H gerunds are placed (rather awkwardly) over a step to the left of a "base line".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Antonson View Post
    Nice work!
    In the first sentence, however, I don't think "to" is understood.
    Thanks. While I was taking my usual walk in the afternoon, exactly the same idea I had hit upon out of the blue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Antonson View Post
    Rather "come" is the past participle, hence "come true" is a participial phrase. H&H diagrams participles around the inside of the bend in the line.
    The participial phrase is a postposited adjective, right?
    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Antonson View Post
    In the second sentence "like" is missing. "Like" is a preposition, and it would work to put the prepositional phrase on a standard as the predicate adjective.
    Why am I so inattentive? is a question that has been following me since my birth.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Antonson View Post
    In the third sentence "complaining" is a gerund. In H&H gerunds are placed (rather awkwardly) over a step to the left of a "base line".



    Thanks, Frank, for your comments.

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    I have never heard of a "postposited adjective". I think it's that difference in terminology across the Atlantic.
    Writing participles and gerunds over bends and steps is so awkward with a keyboard and mouse etc. that I think the effort should be abandoned -- as both you and are are tending to do.
    I am gradually figuring out how to diagram with a mouse. I don't yet see how to make dashed lines though.
    And I have still not managed to post a diagram on this forum.
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