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    #1

    There is / There are

    Are these correct? What do they mean?

    1. That is Tina and Judy.
    2. Those are Tina and Judy. (This one sounds odd but the subject verb agreement is right?)

    3. There is Tina and Judy.
    4. There are Tina and Judy. (Same with this one, it sounds odd? But it is grammatical?)

    Thanks.

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    #2

    Re: There is / There are

    In British English, many would use the singular for exactly the reason you gave in both examples.


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    #3

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdol
    In British English, many would use the singular for exactly the reason you gave in both examples.
    1. That is Tina and Judy. (So this is actually correct? What about formal writing? Is this okay?)
    2. Those are Tina and Judy. (How come this one sounds so odd and no one uses it?)

    What about the meaning? How does #2 compare with #1?

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    #4

    Re: There is / There are

    In formal writing, we tend to be stricter about singular and plural. I'd rewrite the second and use 'they're'.

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    #5

    Re: There is / There are

    Quote Originally Posted by jack
    2. Those are Tina and Judy. (How come this one sounds so odd and no one uses it?)
    Thanks.
    On its own, those tends to refer to things, unless otherwise specified.

    Those two people standing over there are Tina and Judy.


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    #6

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    On its own, those tends to refer to things, unless otherwise specified.
    1. There are Tina and Judy. (This one doesn't sound as odd as #2? I guess 'there' does not tend to refer to things?)
    2. Those are Tina and Judy. (Is this wrong if I just say this without anything else?)

    3. That's Tina and Judy. (In other words, is this short for 'That is Thina and That is Judy. ' ?)

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    #7

    Re: There is / There are

    1. There are Tina and Judy.
    => In other words, Tina and Judy are there. There they are.

    2. Those are Tina and Judy. (Ungrammatical)
    => Try, This is them (i.e., This pair, group, etc.)

    3. That's Tina and Judy.
    => That's them. That (e.g., pair) is them.

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