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    Barack Obama speach VS Barack Obama's speach

    I would like to know if "Barack Obama's speach" is correct or should it be rather "Barack Obama speach".


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    Re: Barack Obama speach VS Barack Obama's speach

    The first - Barack Obama's. It is the speech Barack Obama gave. Also, it is 'speech', not 'speach'.

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    Re: Barack Obama speach VS Barack Obama's speach

    Quote Originally Posted by thx0110 View Post
    I would like to know if "Barack Obama's speach" is correct or should it be rather "Barack Obama speach".
    I don't know which one is the correct here.
    What I can say is the following:
    "Barack Obama's speech" means "speech of Barack Obama"
    "Barack Obama speech" means a "speech" (noum) modified with the kind of adjective "Barack Obama" that is a special kind of speech, namely a Barack Obama one.

    PS Not a native speaker

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    Re: Barack Obama speach VS Barack Obama's speach

    If you want to refer to a particular speech, then use the possessive.

    I thought Obama's speech last night was inspiring.

    If you want to refer to the nature of speeches typical of Obama, then you can use the proper noun as an adjective.

    I thought it was a typical Obama speech, full of charisma and compassion but low on details.
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    Re: Barack Obama speach VS Barack Obama's speach

    Speech, of course :).

    However, if I google "Barack Obama speech" it gives me more results than "Barack Obama's speech". Maybe it has something to do with the mechanism Google use for indexing etc.

    Are these another examples right?
    the James Brown's music
    Susan's big nails
    the Bush's administration

    Muammar al-Gaddafi's wives
    Tess's toys/teats

    How can you say three "s" in "Tess's" consecutive? Do it not sound like an imitation of a snake :D?

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    Re: Barack Obama speach VS Barack Obama's speach

    Hi thx0110,

    Are these another examples right?

    the James Brown's music No. Either James Brown's music or the music of James Brown.

    Susan's big nails Okay

    the Bush's administration
    No. The Bush administration.

    Muammar al-Gaddafi's wives Okay

    Tess's toys/teats Okay

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    How can you say three "s" in "Tess's" consecutive? Do it not sound like an imitation of a snake :D? Tess-iz[/QUOTE]
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