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    Default pronunciation of Goliath

    Dear teachers,

    Would you please tell me how I should pronounce Goliath?

    My hesitation is about the first syllable because it seems that the second is a triphthong /laiәθ/ (as in "fire" /faiә/)

    So for Golaith do you say:

    a) /gәlaiәθ/ = monophthong [as in "gazelle"] or

    b) /gәulaiәθ/ = diphthong [as in "goal" or "to go"] ?

    Thanks,
    Hela

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    Default Re: pronunciation of Goliath

    I say /gəl'aɪəθ/

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    Default Re: pronunciation of Goliath

    Do you mean a) ? The thing is that I can't read you codes.

    See you.

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    Default Re: pronunciation of Goliath

    Dear teachers,

    Regarding the place of articulation what's the difference between short "/ɔ/ for "dog, shot" and long "/ɔ:/" for "bought, wall"? Do they both have a low back position ?

    Thank you in advance,
    Hela

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    Default Re: pronunciation of Goliath

    A)- it's a schwa. Can't you see it?

    The difference between short "/ɔ/ for "dog, shot" and long "/ɔ:/" for "bought is how open the mouth is, IMO- it's more open for the short sound.

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    Default Re: pronunciation of Goliath

    Quote Originally Posted by hela
    Do you mean a) ? The thing is that I can't read you codes.

    See you.
    Have you got phonetic fonts installed on your computer, Hela? I could see your symbols. If you obnly got square boxes, you might need to install a font, but I'm not too sure why you're having the problem:

    http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/wells/fonts.htm (I downloaded these some time ago)
    http://babel.uoregon.edu/yamada/fonts/phonetic.html


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    Default Re: pronunciation of Goliath

    Dear tdol,



    1) For the first link, should I download the zipped file or the self-extracting file?



    2) When we pronounce the short /ɔ/, do you think that the position of the tongue is more in a middle postion or a back position?



    Many thanks,

    Hela

    Last edited by hela; 11-Apr-2005 at 22:30.

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    Default Re: pronunciation of Goliath

    Not much difference to me, maybe slightly towards the middle.

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    Default Re: pronunciation of Goliath

    Thanks,
    Hela

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    Default Re: pronunciation of Goliath

    PS- It doesn't make any difference which file you download if you have WinZip installed. If not, the the self-extractor will work without having the program on your computer.

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