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    Respective/Respectively

    I learned that the use of respectively in English requires parallelism. In other words, there must be a direct one-to-one correspondence.

    Please tell me if my understanding is correct in the following sentences

    1. I gave some oranges and apples to Tom and Susie, respectively. (This means I gave some oranges to Tom and some apples to Susie.)

    2. I gave some oranges to Tom and Susie, respectively. (This is grammatically wrong.)

    3. Tom and Susie gave their respective presents to Bill. (This means Tom gave his present to Bill and Susie gave her present to Bill.)

    4. Tom and Susie gave their resents to Bill, respectively. (This is grammatically wrong.)

    5. Some oranges and apples were given to Tom and Susie, respectively. (This is okay, too.)
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    Re: Respective/Respectively

    I don't find #4 to be wrong. It makes it clear that their presents were not joint presents, but each had brought their own.
    Last edited by Barb_D; 25-Jan-2010 at 18:20.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snappy View Post
    I learned that the use of respectively in English requires parallelism. In other words, there must be a direct one-to-one correspondence.Not always. It can be singly to state sequentially.

    Please tell me if my understanding is correct in the following sentences

    1. I gave some oranges and apples to Tom and Susie, respectively. (This means I gave some oranges to Tom and some apples to Susie.)

    2. I gave some oranges to Tom and some oranges to Susie, respectively. (This is grammatically wrong.)Yes. it means you distributed some oranges between Tom and Susie, but with modification it is corrwct

    3. Tom and Susie gave their respective presents to Bill. (This means Tom gave his present to Bill and Susie gave her present to Bill.)

    4. Tom and Susie gave their resents to Bill, respectively. (This is grammatically wrong.)

    5. Some oranges and apples were given to Tom and Susie, respectively. (This is okay, too.)
    I do not think 2 and 4(with modification) are grammatically wrong. After all ‘respectively’ is an adverb that can used according to its meaning. As an adverb it has two types of uses.\;

    1) to state something or express an action sequentially or in precisely the order given
    This is my Mom and Aunt Susie (respectively) (A statement of introduction of two persons made sequentially)
    I could not feel the taste of the drink as salty or sour, respectively. (describing two qualities serially)
    I gave some oranges to Tom and some orange to Susie, respectively. (An action expressed sequentially)
    Of course, you can drop the word in these sentences without losing clarity.

    2) referring or applying to in a parallel or sequential way (of two or more things, with reference to two or more things previously mentioned)
    The cups and saucers cost $15 and $30 respectively.
    The first and second internal conductors are connected to the red and black external electrodes, respectively. (an example from your previous post)
    Last edited by sarat_106; 25-Jan-2010 at 09:55.

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    Re: Respective/Respectively

    I am still a little confused.

    "Japan initiated its Working Holiday Programmes, first with Australia in December 1980, then with New Zealand in July 1985, and with Canada in March 1986 respectively."

    In this case, is the use of "respectively" correct?

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    Re: Respective/Respectively

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappy View Post
    I am still a little confused.

    "Japan initiated its Working Holiday Programmes, first with Australia in December 1980, then with New Zealand in July 1985, and with Canada in March 1986 respectively."

    In this case, is the use of "respectively" correct?
    There "respectively" is redundant, it doesn't add anything to the sentence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    There "respectively" is redundant, it doesn't add anything to the sentence.
    I think the Working Holiday Programmes vary in content more or less with each country to which they are applied. If that was the case, how would you say?

    The following sentence without "respectively" does not denote that.

    "Japan initiated its Working Holiday Programmes, first with Australia in December 1980, then with New Zealand in July 1985, and with Canada in March 1986."

    Should I say, "Japan initiated its Working Holiday Programmes according to the country, first with Australia in December 1980, then with New Zealand in July 1985, and with Canada in March 1986."

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    Should I say, "Japan initiated separate Working Holiday Programmes, first with Australia in December 1980, then with New Zealand in July 1985, and with Canada in March 1986." ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snappy View Post
    Should I say, "Japan initiated separate Working Holiday Programmes, first with Australia in December 1980, then with New Zealand in July 1985, and with Canada in March 1986." ?
    Yes, that is clearer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    Yes, that is clearer.
    Thank you! Is it possible to use "respective" instead of respectively in that case as follows?

    "Japan initiated its respective Working Holiday Programmes, first with Australia in December 1980, then with New Zealand in July 1985, and with Canada in March 1986."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snappy View Post
    Should I say, "Japan initiated separate Working Holiday Programmes, first with Australia in December 1980, then with New Zealand in July 1985, and finally with Canada in March 1986." ?
    You have used the adverbs 'first' and 'then' to express the action (initiated) sequentially. So use an other adverb 'respectively' is unnecessary. You can say:
    Japan initiated separate Working Holiday Programmes, with Australia in December 1980, New Zealand in July 1985, and Canada in March 1986, respectively.

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