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    Default Diagramming Shakespeare 17

    If music be the food of love, play on,/ Give me surfeit of it; that, surfeiting, / The appetite may sicken and so die. Twelfth Night

    Now, that would be a challenge -- even for Kondorosi!

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    Default Re: Diagramming Shakespeare 17

    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Antonson View Post
    If music be the food of love, play on,/ Give me surfeit of it; that, surfeiting, / The appetite may sicken and so die. Twelfth Night

    Now, that would be a challenge -- even for Kondorosi!
    You meant 'especially' in place of 'even', did you not?
    Let me think (that is not my forte).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Antonson View Post
    If music be the food of love, play on,/ Give me surfeit of it; that, surfeiting, / The appetite may sicken and so die. Twelfth Night

    Now, that would be a challenge -- even for Kondorosi!
    If music be the food of love, play on that surfeiting the appetite may sicken and so die

    1. If music be the food of love, play on

    play on --> pv; on = adverb particle

    2. The appetite may sicken and so die.

    and so = coordinating conjunction

    3. (you) give [(to) me] [surfeit of it] = SVOO

    4. that = exclamation
    5. surfeiting = S(V??)

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    Default Re: Diagramming Shakespeare 17

    ""surfeiting" is a participle modifying "appetite" He wants his appetite for love to die by surfeit.
    It is a rather complex thought. He can't have the woman that he wants so he wants to (using a different metaphor) drown his sorrow in music.

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    Default Re: Diagramming Shakespeare 17

    Thanks Frank!

    that, surfeiting, / The appetite
    This part is dangling in mid-air for me. Wat does that 'surfeiting' do grammatically and how? Also, punctuation is not similar to that which I learnt from grammar books.

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    Default Re: Diagramming Shakespeare 17

    ...the surfeiting appetite...
    I agree that the punctuation is unusual, but so is the word order -- the anastophe.

    It could also be understood as elliptical for "...by surfeiting..." the appetite might sicken"and die, in which case "by surfeiting" would be an adverbial prepostional phrase (with a gerund as its object) modifying the verbs "sicken" and "die"', answering the question "how?"

    This second explanation is probably more acurate. It's just that I like to avoid ellipsis when possible.

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    I am going to surfeit my appetite when I go back home from my survival trip.

    If music be the food of love, play on,/ Give me surfeit of it; that, surfeiting, / The appetite may sicken and so die.
    If music be the food of love, play on,/ Give me surfeit of it
    This part is crystal clear

    that, surfeiting, / The appetite may sicken and so die.
    that = the appetite = recapitulatory pronoun

    surfeiting = how


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    Default Re: Diagramming Shakespeare 17

    Yes, that is very close to what I would diagram! "So", however, I am quite sure is a (subordinating) conjunction here. Think of it as short for "so that".
    It connects the second clause with the first. The second clause is an adverbial clause anwering the question "why?"about "play on".

    I like the fact that you gave the diagram without the words. That way more of the fun can be shared by others who are viewing this.

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    Default Re: Diagramming Shakespeare 17

    Or, rather, answering the question "why?" about "give".

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    Default Re: Diagramming Shakespeare 17

    [so = thus] is my reading of the sentence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Antonson View Post

    I like the fact that you gave the diagram without the words. That way more of the fun can be shared by others who are viewing this.

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    So do I. Thanks.

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