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    Question Present Perfect vs Simple Past

    Good morning or good afternoon,

    I would like to have your opinion about the following sentence:

    I have been to the doctor's this morning.

    I said this phrase in the morning but if I said it in the afternoon can I still use the present perfect tense.

    In the same time are you able to enlighten me about the 's' after the word doctor.

    Thanks in advance for your replies (do not hesitate to correct my mistakes).

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    Quote Originally Posted by The French View Post
    Good morning or good afternoon,

    I would like to have your opinion about the following sentence:

    I have been to the doctor's this morning.

    I said this sentence in the morning, but if I say it in the afternoon can I still use the present perfect tense?

    At the same time, are you able to enlighten me about the 's' after the word doctor?

    Thanks in advance for your replies (do not hesitate to correct my mistakes).
    No, if you say it in the afternoon it's in the past, use the simple past "went". "Doctor's" is a short way of saying "doctor's surgery/office".

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    ***Neither a teacher nor a native-speaker***

    First, you specify the time and secondly,as far as I understand, you are not there anymore.
    So, I would use simple past tense, like; I went to see the doctor this morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    No, if you say it in the afternoon it's in the past, use the simple past "went". "Doctor's" is a short way of saying "doctor's surgery/office".
    Hi teacher,

    You are always fast in your replies. Thanks for your correction but can you tell me what difference you make between the words 'phrase' and 'sentence'.

    See you soon and thanks again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by euncu View Post
    ***Neither a teacher nor a native-speaker***

    First, you specify the time and secondly,as far as I understand, you are not there anymore.
    So, I would use simple past tense, like; I went to see the doctor this morning.
    Hi Euncu,

    In my mind when you use the present perfect tense it's to show that an action has a result in the moment of speaking or thta is still continuing. I know the border line is not very clear and there are some differnces between countries but it's another issue.

    Bye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The French View Post
    Hi teacher,

    You are always fast in your replies. Thanks for your correction but can you tell me what difference you make between the words 'phrase' and 'sentence'.

    See you soon and thanks again.
    A phrase is just a group of words in order, a sentence is "une phrase" in French, it starts with a capital letter, has a subject, an object and a verb (at least), and finishes with a full stop, question mark or exclamation mark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    A phrase is just a group of words in order, a sentence is "une phrase" in French, it starts with a capital letter, has a subject, an object and a verb (at least), and finishes with a full stop, question mark or exclamation mark.
    Hi teacher,

    I understand now why I am confused.It's what I call a 'bad friend'.

    Have a nice day.

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    Default Re: Present Perfect vs Simple Past

    Maybe, it is true for some cases such as:
    I broke my arm (It's well now)
    I've broken my arm (It hurts when I move it)

    But as for your example it indicates a completed action. I know you say so by considering the sentences like I've been to Italy,etc. I am not sure about the grammatical roots of saying that way but if we are not referring to an action but referring to an experience, we use have/has been. And another thing to mention, as far as I know if we specified an exact time we should use simple past tense, like;
    I talked to him ten minutes ago
    We went there yesterday.

    Since I'm neither a teacher nor a native -speaker, I suggest that we wait for a native-speaker to confirm this.
    Last edited by euncu; 16-Feb-2010 at 16:58.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The French View Post


    I have been to the doctor's this morning.


    Quote Originally Posted by euncu View Post
    Maybe, it is true for some cases such as:
    I broke my arm (It's well now)
    I've broken my arm (It hurts when I move it)

    But as for your example it indicates a completed action. I know you say so by considering the sentences like I've been to Italy,etc. I am not sure about the grammatical roots of saying that way but if we are not referring to an action but referring to an experience, we use have/has been. And another thing to mention, as far as I know if we specified an exact time we should use simple past tense, like;
    I talked to him ten minutes ago
    We went there yesterday.

    Since I'm neither a teacher nor a native -speaker, I suggest that we wait for a native-speaker to confirm this.
    I have been to the doctor's this morning. This sentence is perfectly correct if said in the morning. Consider this conversation: Person #1 "I've been to the doctor's this morning." person #2 "Have you, what did she say?"


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    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    I have been to the doctor's this morning. This sentence is perfectly correct if said in the morning. Consider this conversation: Person #1 "I've been to the doctor's this morning." person #2 "Have you, what did she say?"

    If I've understood you right, It is about time, not about action.

    1)I've gone to the market today.(I'm back but It is still today)
    2)I went to the market yesterday.(Yesterday is over,I'm saying it today)

    I've to admit that the first sentence sounds weird since I am not in the market (I'm home now)

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