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    Quote Originally Posted by MiaCulpa View Post
    Perhaps, but I refer you to the original question. "As far as I know in AE it [the Present Perfect] is very often, if not always, replaced by Past Simple." My hyperbole and my bug-eyed emoticon friend were supposed to convey bemusement that my countrymen and I were being so infamously characterized. (Ooops, there goes that hyperbole again).
    The person who wrote that was not claiming authority; they wrote, as you quoted, 'as far as I know'. They also wrote, 'I would appreciate if someone (a native) can answer these questions; I'm really interested in such differences.' The claim that this is infamous characterisation of your countrymen is indeed hyperbolic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson_F View Post
    The person who wrote that was not claiming authority; they wrote, as you quoted, 'as far as I know'. They also wrote, 'I would appreciate if someone (a native) can answer these questions; I'm really interested in such differences.' The claim that this is infamous characterisation of your countrymen is indeed hyperbolic.
    Oops. I see what all the fuss is about. I thought I was still posting in the "Weird US English" thread when I first gave my response. I apologize sincerely to the original asker of the question for my flippancy and to those whom I may have perturbed with my inappropriate and mistaken attempt at humor in an "Ask the Teacher" thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiaCulpa View Post
    Oops. I see what all the fuss is about. I thought I was still posting in the "Weird US English" thread when I first gave my response. I apologize sincerely to the original asker of the question for my flippancy and to those whom I may have perturbed with my inappropriate and mistaken attempt at humor in an "Ask the Teacher" thread.
    Don't worry about it. I feel no need to apologise for my denseness in not noticing that it was an attempt at humour, so you certainly don't have to feel guilty about my densesness. The threads are a better place for humour, even if it doesn't always work for some. Carry on, please.

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    Default Re: get married with/ get married to

    What about get married 'off'

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssian View Post
    What about get married 'off'
    Not in the sense we are discussing.

    The earl only managed to marry off his younger daughter by promising a huge dowry.
    Last edited by 5jj; 16-Dec-2010 at 09:18. Reason: additional info supplied

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson_F View Post
    For you, perhaps. For me, and for many speakers of BrE, 'talk (verb) with' is not very natural.
    Could someone confirm if it is true that "talk with" is not very natural in BrE? Thanks in advance.

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    This British author mentions only talk to, although does mention talk with for 'some American speakers':

    speak - talk - used with 'to' and 'with'

    If you speak to someoneone or talk to them, you have a conversation with them,

    I saw you speaking to him just now.
    I enjoyed talking to Anne.

    Some American speakers say speak with or talk with.


    Sinclair, John [Editor-in-Chief] (1992) Collins Cobuild English Usage, London: HarperCollins

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    Below are from Macmillan Dictionary and Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English respectively, both BrE dictionaries. They do not say that 'talk with' is AmE.

    I would like to hear from BrE native speakers
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    Thanks in advance.

    1. to have a conversation with other people
    They were all talking and laughing together.
    talk to: I need to talk to you.
    talk with: Everyone was busily talking with their friends.
    talk about: We were talking about you just last night.

    2. Parents should talk with their children about drug abuse.
    Last edited by Tan Elaine; 20-Dec-2010 at 05:46.

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    Could someone confirm if it is true that "talk with" is not very natural in BrE as stated by Johnson_F below although the dictionaries from which I quoted don't say it is the case?

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson_F View Post
    For you, perhaps. For me, and for many speakers of BrE, 'talk (verb) with' is not very natural.
    Thanks in advance.
    Last edited by Tan Elaine; 20-Dec-2010 at 18:00.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tan Elaine View Post
    Could someone confirm if it is true that "talk with" is not very natural in BrE as stated by Johnson_F below although the dictionaries from which I quoted don't say it is the case?
    Of course dictionaries don't list unnatural forms. They would be ten times the weight and size if they did.

    So far you have had me, a speaker of BrE saying:
    For me, and for many speakers of BrE, 'talk (verb) with' is not very natural. While nobody has appeared to say, "Of course Johnson is right, as always", nobody has yet disagreeed violently.

    You had a quotation from Swan, a widely repected writer in BrE areas, giving only 'to' examples, and then saying that some American speakers use 'with'. You then found Macmillan and Longman who do not say that 'with' is AmE. (Why you want speakers of BrE to confirm that is beyond me).

    If you like, I'll give you the Longman Dictionary of American English definitions of talk -"1. to say things to someone as part of a conversation", two quotations, one each for 'to' and 'with; "2. to discuss something with someone, especially something important", one quotation for 'with, none for 'to'.

    Just what is it about my original statement, implicitly confirmed by Swan, that makes you so desperate for confirmation?


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