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    "and" as a linking word vs parallelism?

    Hello, guys,
    I've just entered a rather simple yet confusing sentence.

    1.The frog was driven over and dead.
    2. The frog was driven over and died.

    Which one is correct?
    In sentence 1, is it grammatically correct when "dead" shares "was" with "driven over?" I'm asking mainly because the former is an adjective
    while the later is part of a passive voice. I assumed sentence 1 won't be acceptable grammatically because it is in conflict with parallelism.

    Am I on the right track?

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    Re: "and" as a linking word vs parallelism?

    Quote Originally Posted by kiweep7 View Post
    Hello, guys,
    I've just entered a rather simple yet confusing sentence.

    1.The frog was driven over and dead.
    2. The frog was driven over and died.

    Which one is correct?
    In sentence 1, is it grammatically correct when "dead" shares "was" with "driven over?" I'm asking mainly because the former is an adjective
    while the later is part of a passive voice. I assumed sentence 1 won't be acceptable grammatically because it is in conflict with parallelism.

    Am I on the right track?
    Welcome!

    Don't pay too much attention to parallelism; pay attention to what the sentence is saying.

    Sentence 2. is correct. It means that the frog was driven over and, as a result, it died.

    You have to imagine a very unlikely scenario to have sentence 1. make sense.


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    Re: "and" as a linking word vs parallelism?

    Cheers, 2006!
    Your explanation and point of view do help a lot!

    What about grammatically?
    I mean, how should I approach sentence 1 grammatically in order to
    lead my students to seeing its flaw in grammar?
    I appreciate any suggestion!

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    Re: "and" as a linking word vs parallelism?

    Quote Originally Posted by kiweep7 View Post
    Cheers, 2006!
    Your explanation and point of view do help a lot!

    What about grammatically?
    I mean, how should I approach sentence 1 grammatically in order to
    lead my students to seeing its flaw in grammar?
    I appreciate any suggestion!
    I suggest you start with the correct sentence 2.
    Sentence 2. says that the frog was driven over (passive part), and as a result of that it, the frog, died (active part).

    You need a verb at the end of the sentence, not an adjective. "died" is a verb and "dead" is an adjective.

    What did the frog do? It died. (verb)

    You cannot say 'It dead.'


    Does that help?

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    Re: "and" as a linking word vs parallelism?

    Quote Originally Posted by kiweep7 View Post
    Cheers, 2006!
    Your explanation and point of view do help a lot!

    What about grammatically?
    I mean, how should I approach sentence 1 grammatically in order to
    lead my students to seeing its flaw in grammar?
    I appreciate any suggestion!
    I agree with 2006, but if you must start with sentence 1, consider what you'd have to do to make it make sense:

    The frog had been driven over and was dead.

    You need the two tenses to capture the sequencing; if you leave 'dead' as a simple participle (with no auxiliary), you need to stick with sentence 2.

    b

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