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    Abstract Idea is offline Key Member
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbmmbi View Post

    2. Never Study Grammar
    Right now. Stop. Put away your grammar books and textbooks. Grammar rules teach you to think about English, you want to speak automatically– without thinking!
    I don't agree with this point. I like to study grammar and I have a lot of fun doing it.
    Maybe you mean "study grammar later"? That would be OK.

    It is also fun and interesting to think about English, why not?

    Never say never.

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    Default Re: speaking english

    Quote Originally Posted by ymnisky View Post
    I don't agree with this point. I like to study grammar and I have a lot of fun doing it.
    Maybe you mean "study grammar later"? That would be OK.

    It is also fun and interesting to think about English, why not?

    Never say never.

    I agree with Ymnisky. You need to know something about grammar. You don't need to be obsessed with the rules of course.

    And Real English: what's Real English? there are so many different accents, including non-English accents, that it is difficult to learn just by listening to others without knowing some grammar. If I think of just the different accents Italians have when speaking English. so yes, listen to audios, watch films, but read and don't forget grammar completely.
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    Default Re: speaking english

    Quote Originally Posted by ymnisky View Post
    I don't agree with this point. I like to study grammar and I have a lot of fun doing it.
    Maybe you mean "study grammar later"? That would be OK.

    It is also fun and interesting to think about English, why not?

    Never say never.
    I also disagree with that point, but for a different reason. Learning grammar helps with learning a language.

    I also find grammar fun, but that's beside the point, I think.

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    Default Re: speaking english

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    I also disagree with that point, but for a different reason. Learning grammar helps with learning a language.

    I also find grammar fun, but that's beside the point, I think.
    Yes, Raymott, I think we have already discussed it somewhere else.
    I am not sure whether learning grammar helps everyone learning a foreign language.
    I think it depends on the learner. And I believe that ESL methods which do not rely on (formal) grammar teaching may be able to achieve their goals.

    If grammar were inherently fun it would not be besides the point because it would help motivate students. But I reckon it may not be as fun for others as it is for us.

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