View Poll Results: In which conditional can 'if' be replaced with 'should'?

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  • Zero conditional

    160 23.95%
  • First conditional

    259 38.77%
  • Second conditional

    158 23.65%
  • Third conditional

    91 13.62%
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Thread: Conditionals

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    #11
    Quote Originally Posted by whl626
    Quote Originally Posted by RonBee
    No should for the zero conditional then. I will just have to agree with myself.

    :wink:
    I have come across ' should ' being added for a matter of probability.

    eg We will not go if it rains. Or We will not go if it should rain.
    That's a first conditional.



    (I looked it up just to be sure.)

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    #12

    Re: Conditionals

    I do not understand why you argue about this!
    İt is very clear and certain that 'should'is used to omit 'if' in first conditionals.


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    #13

    Re: Conditionals

    hello there,

    I think you can replace if by should or what it is the same ommit "if" when you are using an unreal conditional which answers "what would happen if...?
    related to inversion. particularly in formal or literary English.
    but only in hypothetical conditionals so the second conditional...

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    Re: Conditionals

    Should he come, I'll give him the message.

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    #15

    Re: Conditionals

    Couldn't you also say, "If he comes, I'll give him the message."? Means the same thing to me.

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    #16

    Re: Conditionals

    Yes, you can. This is the form where 'if' can be replaced with 'should', which is the topic of the thread.


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    Re: Conditionals

    Couldn't you also say, "If he comes, I'll give him the message."? Means the same thing to me.
    So, doesn't matter if you use "if" or "should", the meaning stays the same, is that right?

    Or maybe there's a tiny difference, e.g. Is furnishing a conditional with "should" more formal?

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    Re: Conditionals

    It is seen more in formal usage. Also, it can be used to reduce the possiblity- should he come = can be used to mean 'I don't really expect him to come, but...'.

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    #19

    Re: Conditionals

    First conditional.
    In my opinion, the meaning is a little different from the sentence in which we use "if"; the idea or the request is much more stressed

    Should you have any information about the missing girl, call the nearest police station.

    It does not matter how much information you have : any information is welcome or would be of help.

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    #20

    Re: Conditionals

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    Yes, you can. This is the form where 'if' can be replaced with 'should', which is the topic of the thread.
    1. So Tdol to put them on a scale of possibility and probability:
    - Should replaced with if (zero to first conditional: increases possibility)
    Should takes it into the first conditional. It's called the zero conditional as they express certainty not probability.
    - If replaced with should (decreases probability: first to second conditional)
    In BE, we do replace 'if' with 'should' in the first conditional and it seems to reduce the probability of the condition being met, like a halfway house to the second conditional.

    2. So In all cases should functions as a border crossing from zero conditional to first conditional and then again from first conditional to second conditional.

    3. BTW when is not conditional at all because it doesn’t set a condition. It refers to time: “When he comes” means I know he comes but I don’t know the time whereas “if he comes” means I don’t know.

    4.What about provided that and given..
    Last edited by Dr. Jamshid Ibrahim; 22-Jul-2007 at 15:40.

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