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    ..to make sure everybody get/gets home safely

    I am here to make sure everbody gets home safely.

    I am here to make sure everbody get home safely.


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    Are both sentences acceptable? I was taught to use the second one, which is 'should get ' in a full form, but 'should' can be omitted.

    However, I frequently hear the first kind of sentence as well with an 's' put after 'get' .

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    Re: ..to make sure everybody get/gets home safely

    Quote Originally Posted by jiaruchan View Post
    I am here to make sure everbody gets home safely.

    I am here to make sure everbody get home safely.


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    Are both sentences acceptable? I was taught to use the second one, which is 'should get ' in a full form, but 'should' can be omitted.

    However, I frequently hear the first kind of sentence as well with an 's' put after 'get' .
    "Gets" is correct. Everybody takes the 3rd person singular verb form.

    Everybody eats lunch.
    Make sure everybody has their shoes.
    Everybody is here.

    The same goes for "everyone".

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    Re: ..to make sure everybody get/gets home safely

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    "Gets" is correct. Everybody takes the 3rd person singular verb form.

    Everybody eats lunch.
    Make sure everybody has their shoes.
    Everybody is here.

    The same goes for "everyone".
    I remember when learning grammar, I was taught that there was a rule saying :
    make sure that somebody should do something...
    The pattern is same as: suggest that someone should do something
    And then ’should‘ can be omissible, becoming ’suggest that someone do something‘, regardless of third person singular.

    Thus, it is deemed good English to say: Make sure he understand the risk. Same as: Make sure he should understand the risk.

    I suggest he go on a trip to New York.= I suggest he should go on a trip to New York.

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    Re: ..to make sure everybody get/gets home safely

    I think you have got confused with these other verbs:

    make him do
    let him do
    suggest (that) he does
    ensure (that) he does

    you don't say:
    suggest (that) he do OR
    suggest (that) he should do

    you also don't say:
    recommend (that) he should do OR
    encourage (that) he should do


    not a teacher

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    Re: ..to make sure everybody get/gets home safely

    Quote Originally Posted by tedtmc View Post
    I think you have got confused with these other verbs:

    make him do
    let him do
    suggest (that) he does
    ensure (that) he does

    you don't say:
    suggest (that) he do OR
    suggest (that) he should do

    you also don't say:
    recommend (that) he should do OR
    encourage (that) he should do


    not a teacher
    Since you understand Chinese, I have a link for you to look at:
    suggestÓĂ·¨Ďę˝â

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    Re: ..to make sure everybody get/gets home safely

    Quote Originally Posted by jiaruchan View Post
    Since you understand Chinese, I have a link for you to look at:
    suggestÓĂ·¨Ďę˝â
    Thanks for the link.

    We suggested/advised/proposed that he (should) go and make an apology to his teacher. - this is wrong

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    Re: ..to make sure everybody get/gets home safely

    Quote Originally Posted by tedtmc View Post
    Thanks for the link.

    We suggested/advised/proposed that he (should) go and make an apology to his teacher. - this is wrong
    But it is said to be very common American English.

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    Re: ..to make sure everybody get/gets home safely

    Quote Originally Posted by jiaruchan View Post
    I am here to make sure everbody gets home safely.

    I am here to make sure everbody get home safely.


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    Are both sentences acceptable? I was taught to use the second one, which is 'should get ' in a full form, but 'should' can be omitted.

    However, I frequently hear the first kind of sentence as well with an 's' put after 'get' .
    ***** NOT A TEACHER *****

    Good afternoon, Jiaruchan.

    (1) I am 99% confident that most Americans would say: I am here to

    make sure/ certain that everyone getS home safely.

    (a) As one book says, the words "sure" and "certain" express confidence.

    (2) You said that you were taught that sometimes "should" is optional.

    (a) That is true if you are using the so-called SUBJUNCTIVE.

    (i) when you get time, read all you can about the subjunctive.

    (a) Basically, it means when you wish for something, but it is NOT a reality.

    (3) She suggested that he BUY some new clothes. (It is only her

    suggestion or wish. Maybe he will or maybe he won't. ) (He buyS new

    clothes every Saturday. = a fact. It's reality. It is NOT only a wish or suggestion or order.

    (4) She suggested that he SHOULD BUY some new clothes. I think that our British friends prefer the "should" version.

    (5) Maybe (maybe) many (many!) years ago, native speakers would say:

    "I am here to make sure/certain that everyone GET home safely," BUT


    not nowadays!!! I think the answer is that when you say "I am here to

    make sure/certain that ...." you speak with such confidence and strength

    that native speakers no longer (if they ever did) consider it as a "weak"

    subjunctive. In other words, you are not "begging" anyone to do

    something. Instead you are saying: I am here to make certain/sure that

    something happenS. And it if doesn't, I will be very angry. So do what I

    tell you. Now!!!

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    Re: ..to make sure everybody get/gets home safely

    American English speaker here: That is NOT commonly said here.

    As the others have said: gets
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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