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    Re: Drawing trees for Arabic sentences

    thanks to both of u Frank & Chester . u r really helpful .
    shall I understang that I need to devise rules from my data and work accordingly , chester ?
    Frank , the diagram is very nice and elegant but it does not have the shape of familiar syntax trees like that one posted by chester ? .
    Regards ,

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    Re: Drawing trees for Arabic sentences

    Reed-Kellogg is a different system from the "trees". I personally think it is better -- well at least more fun.
    For Arabic (or any language written from right to left) the diagram would be a mirror image.
    If you are doing this project for a teacher, it is quite likely that the teacher would not accept Reed-Kellogg.

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    it is quite likely that the teacher would not accept Reed-Kellogg.
    Actually That what will happen .
    However , thanks for suggesting Reed-Kellogg , I might need it in the future ISA .
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    Re: Drawing trees for Arabic sentences

    Quote Originally Posted by knowledge seeker View Post
    thanks to both of u Frank & Chester . u r really helpful .
    shall I understang that I need to devise rules from my data and work accordingly , chester ?
    Frank , the diagram is very nice and elegant but it does not have the shape of familiar syntax trees like that one posted by chester ? .
    Regards ,
    Actually, thatís what a researcher should do. So find the parts of speech, formulate them, and then simply diagram them. Of course, I canít call it devising, but describing the already established rules. the already established rules. &nbsp;</span></p>

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    Re: Drawing trees for Arabic sentences

    Chester,
    I did not understand what you meant.
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    Re: Drawing trees for Arabic sentences

    Why? Knowledge seeker has to follow the established rules of Arabic syntax and grammar, and not to follow what the classical transformational rules prescribe.

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    God bless you Chester ,
    Actually, that’s what a researcher should do. So find the parts of speech, formulate them, and then simply diagram them. Of course, I can’t call it devising, but describing the already established rules. the already established rules. &nbsp;</span></p>
    could you please tell me how do you come up with this conclusion , what are your resources because I need them for documentation .

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    Re: Drawing trees for Arabic sentences

    Quote Originally Posted by knowledge seeker View Post
    God bless you Chester ,

    could you please tell me how do you come up with this conclusion , what are your resources because I need them for documentation .

    Regards .
    That fact is usually described in detail in such linguistic courses as Research for Linguists, Principles of Research and etc. (that may have different titles according to curriculums).</p>
    But if by resources youmean a book that is on Arabic, as I have already indicated, I have nothing to introduce.

    If you want to base your principles on English, you can find many books and articles (even online). For example, you can simply borrow some books on Transformational Grammar, or Diagramming (no matter who their authors are) and cite the information you find useful in your paper. But as I have mentioned several times, and as you know clearly, you have to adapt whatever strategy you adopt to Arabic.
    So the resources will show you the methodology, but they won't tell you much about the real implementation. Here's a website that can help; (you might have checked it out before).
    Sentence Parsing | Learn Arabic Online

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    thanks a lot , the website is very helpful .
    Yes , indeed I am looking for such resources .
    I am very grateful to you .

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