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    Default CELTA Pre-Interview Task - Help Needed

    I find the majority of the questions in the CELTA pre-interview task fairly easy but I am at a bit of a loss for the following four examples. I don't expect anyone to do my homework for me, but I would be so very grateful if someone could give me a few pointers to help me figure this out. I really don't think I'm on the right track with these. My answers are in blue.

    Odd One Out

    a) rice b) egg c) milk d) cream

    My first thought was these could all make a nice desert of some sort but then I was left stumped. In all seriousness, when all these words are taken as nouns (and I assume they should be), "egg" is the only one which forms the plural with an 's' (no one says, "we have a lot of creams," at least not in the culinary context which, to me, seems implied). Would this be correct?

    a) to need b) to play c) to bring d) to open

    It seems to me the odd one out is "to need," but why? My only attempt at an explanation is that it is the only verb expressing a personal state as opposed to external action. If this is actually correct, what would be the technical (grammatical) way of explaining this distinction?

    a) He was interesting. b) He was smiling. c) He was smoking. d) He was reading.

    He believe here a) is the odd one out because "interesting" is an adjective, whereas in the other three it's a past participle. Also, the verb in a) is a linking verb, while in the other three it is a helping verb. (Incidentally, you could say the same about c, i.e. "He was smokin'!" but I wouldn't go that far.)

    I also have one small problem with the following task pronunciation task:

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    What sort of pronunciation problems do you think learners may have with the following words and phrases? e.g. word stress, sounds, missing / adding sounds, intonation.

    fish and chips, bread and butter, now and then (what problem do these have in common?)

    I have no bright ideas... Pronunciation, perhaps. In "now and then," the 'd' in "and" might present problems with the 'th' in "then." Any help here is highly appreciated.


    Thank you very much for looking this over.




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    Default Re: CELTA Pre-Interview Task - Help Needed

    [QUOTE=Invictus;601639]I find the majority of the questions in the CELTA pre-interview task fairly easy but I am at a bit of a loss for the following four examples. I don't expect anyone to do my homework for me, but I would be so very grateful if someone could give me a few pointers to help me figure this out. I really don't think I'm on the right track with these. My answers are in blue.

    Odd One Out

    a) rice b) egg c) milk d) cream

    My first thought was these could all make a nice desert of some sort but then I was left stumped. In all seriousness, when all these words are taken as nouns (and I assume they should be), "egg" is the only one which forms the plural with an 's' (no one says, "we have a lot of creams," at least not in the culinary context which, to me, seems implied). Would this be correct?
    Egg is the one that is countable, the rest are uncountable nouns
    a) to need b) to play c) to bring d) to open

    It seems to me the odd one out is "to need," but why? My only attempt at an explanation is that it is the only verb expressing a personal state as opposed to external action. If this is actually correct, what would be the technical (grammatical) way of explaining this distinction?
    "bring" is the one with irregular past form, the others have regular past forms.

    a) He was interesting. b) He was smiling. c) He was smoking. d) He was reading.

    He believe here a) is the odd one out because "interesting" is an adjective, whereas in the other three it's a past participle. Also, the verb in a) is a linking verb, while in the other three it is a helping verb. (Incidentally, you could say the same about c, i.e. "He was smokin'!" but I wouldn't go that far.)
    He was interesting. "interesting" is a subject complement. The others are past continuous

    I also have one small problem with the following task pronunciation task:

    Pronunciation

    Pronunciation
    What sort of pronunciation problems do you think learners may have with the following words and phrases? e.g. word stress, sounds, missing / adding sounds, intonation.

    fish and chips, bread and butter, now and then (what problem do these have in common?)

    I have no bright ideas... Pronunciation, perhaps. In "now and then," the 'd' in "and" might present problems with the 'th' in "then." Any help here is highly appreciated.

    It could be linking the two words with "and" as a weak form. Pronuncing the "schwa"
    Thank you very much for looking this over.

    I hope that helps
    xxx

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    Default Re: CELTA Pre-Interview Task - Help Needed

    Wow, thank you so much. These seem fairly uncomplicated in hindsight. I'm sure as I gain experience teaching I will begin to break down language in better and more intuitive ways.

    Thanks again.

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    Default Re: CELTA Pre-Interview Task - Help Needed

    With the second, you could also argue that need is the odd one out because it is a semi-modal verb- it can behave like a main verb (I need a coffee/I need to go) or a modal (You needn't do it)

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    Default Re: CELTA Pre-Interview Task - Help Needed

    Quote Originally Posted by Invictus View Post
    Wow, thank you so much. These seem fairly uncomplicated in hindsight. I'm sure as I gain experience teaching I will begin to break down language in better and more intuitive ways.

    Thanks again.
    You're welcome!

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    Default Re: CELTA Pre-Interview Task - Help Needed

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    With the second, you could also argue that need is the odd one out because it is a semi-modal verb- it can behave like a main verb (I need a coffee/I need to go) or a modal (You needn't do it)
    Yes, that's true. I think they ask you to distinguish senses in sentences using modals (semi or quasi), tenses... in other exercises, so I thought they'd like to know if the "candidate" is able to differenciate regular/irregular verb forms.

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    Default Re: CELTA Pre-Interview Task - Help Needed

    Oh definitely, I was just chucking in another possibility. With this sort of question, it's often the case that the people who wrote it had one thing in mind, but you can come up with other possibilities. You could argue that for question one egg is the odd one out because the verbs formed from the others all have an association with the foodstuff of the noun, but I doubt that's what they had in mind.

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    Default Re: CELTA Pre-Interview Task - Help Needed

    In the first question Invictus was looking for help with, the thing that jumped out at me was not the countable/uncountable distinction: it was the fact that three of the objects are dairy and one is not. Is this question definitely probing grammar rather than an awareness of semantic links in vocabulary?

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    Default Re: CELTA Pre-Interview Task - Help Needed

    I am not sure about that because the strict definition of dairy is, I believe, restricted to milk and products derived from milk, though it is common to see them described as dairy products.

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    Default Re: CELTA Pre-Interview Task - Help Needed

    Yeah, I wouldn't class rice or eggs as dairy - just done a quick check on the internet and it seems dairy only applies to those products from the mammary glands of mammals eg. milk, cream etc.

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