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    Default What is the deep meanings of the three idoms

    Hi, my dear teachers, I need your help.
    1. Grass never grows when wind blows.
    2. Cloudy mornings turn to clear evenings.
    3. Everything must have a beginning.
    I can understand the superficial meanings of the idioms, but I am not clear about their deep meanings. you please tell me. If possible, please tell me their origins.
    Thanks a lot!

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    Default Re: What is the deep meanings of the three idoms

    1. Grass never grows when wind blows.- Where did you get this from? It's not an English saying that I have ever heard and can't find it in searches either.

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    Default Re: What is the deep meanings of the three idoms

    Where the cold wind blows
    Tomorrow never knows
    Where your sweet smile goes
    Tomorrow never knows

    You and me we've been standing here, my dear
    Waiting for that time to come
    Where the green grass grows
    Tomorrow never knows

    Regards,

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    Default Re: What is the deep meanings of the three idoms

    Quote Originally Posted by vil View Post
    Where the cold wind blows
    Tomorrow never knows
    Where your sweet smile goes
    Tomorrow never knows

    You and me we've been standing here, my dear
    Waiting for that time to come
    Where the green grass grows
    Tomorrow never knows

    Regards,

    V.
    I assume this is a poem or a song. However, it doesn't actually contain the "idiom" you quoted (Grass never grows when wind blows).

    I have never heard the phrase either.

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    Default Re: What is the deep meanings of the three idoms

    Quote Originally Posted by tianhang View Post
    Hi, my dear teachers, I need your help.
    1. Grass never grows when wind blows.
    2. Cloudy mornings turn to clear evenings.
    3. Everything must have a beginning.
    I can understand the superficial meanings of the idioms, but I am not clear about their deep meanings. you please tell me. If possible, please tell me their origins.
    Thanks a lot!
    ***** NOT A TEACHER *****

    Good morning, Tianhang.

    (1) Like the other posters, I am intrigued by your nice idioms.

    (2) May I ask whether they are translations from the Chinese? If they are, could you write them in Chinese? Then we could check our Chinese dictionaries.

    (3) Cloudy mornings turn to clear evenings.

    (a) I think this idea is expressed in many languages.

    (i) Does it mean something (only something!!!) like:

    A bad beginning can have a good ending.

    After a storm comes the calm.

    (4) Grass never grows when the wind blows.

    (a) It sounds so wise.

    (b) I wish that I understood it!!!

    (c) The only thing that comes to mind (please don't laugh) is:

    If the wind (such as a father) is always blowing (criticizing and maybe even hitting) the grass (his son), then the grass (his son) will never have a change to grow (develop self-confidence and independence necessary to be an effective adult).

    Are you still laughing?

    Have a nice day!

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    Default Re: What is the deep meanings of the three idoms

    1 Peter 1:24
    "All people are like grass, and all their beauty is like a flower of the field. The grass dries up and the flower drops off, (when there is a rushing mighty, cold wind)

    As you may know, there is not getting round that the clever men enjoy privileges to make use of many metaphors in their wording.

    Regards,

    V.
    Last edited by vil; 18-May-2010 at 15:48.

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    Default Re: What is the deep meanings of the three idoms

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    1. Grass never grows when wind blows.- Where did you get this from? It's not an English saying that I have ever heard and can't find it in searches either.
    I came across them in an article. I have never heard about them either. So I posted them. Thank you all the same!

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    Default Re: What is the deep meanings of the three idoms

    Quote Originally Posted by vil View Post
    Where the cold wind blows
    Tomorrow never knows
    Where your sweet smile goes
    Tomorrow never knows

    You and me we've been standing here, my dear
    Waiting for that time to come
    Where the green grass grows
    Tomorrow never knows

    Regards,

    V.
    The poem is so beautiful that I am deeply touched. But I don't think it is related to the idiom. Thanks you for the wonderful moment.

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    Default Re: What is the deep meanings of the three idoms

    Quote Originally Posted by TheParser View Post
    ***** NOT A TEACHER ****

    Thanks a lot for your explanations. By the way I have the same understanding as you do. So I take it seriously and I didn't laugh.

    (2) May I ask whether they are translations from the Chinese? If they are, could you write them in Chinese? Then we could check our Chinese dictionaries.
    I just came across them in an article. I don't know whether they are tanslations from Chinese. You know there is something lost in translation.

    (3) Cloudy mornings turn to clear evenings.

    (a) I think this idea is expressed in many languages.

    (i) Does it mean something (only something!!!) like:

    A bad beginning can have a good ending.

    After a storm comes the calm.
    I have the same understanding as you do.


    (4) Grass never grows when the wind blows.

    (a) It sounds so wise.

    (b) I wish that I understood it!!!

    (c) The only thing that comes to mind (please don't laugh) is:

    If the wind (such as a father) is always blowing (criticizing and maybe even hitting) the grass (his son), then the grass (his son) will never have a change to grow (develop self-confidence and independence necessary to be an effective adult).

    Are you still laughing?
    NO, I am not. As far as I can understand, it means the environment is very important for one's growing, which is something like your understanding.


    Have a nice day!
    Happy everyday!

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    Default Re: What is the deep meanings of the three idoms

    Hi, there, if you have different understandings, or better understandings, please post them here! Thanks a lot!

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