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    The international nature of English makes it inevitable that a true international variety will emerge, where rules may well be determined by non-native speakers.

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    I am very new to this forum but your enthusiasm Casiopea, has certainly added something for me already. I'm just glad you found something worth digesting!!!! :wink:

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdol
    The international nature of English makes it inevitable that a true international variety will emerge, where rules may well be determined by non-native speakers.
    Beginners will be at a cross road if there isn't anything to go by as far as learning a language is concerned :P

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    They won't be the ones making the new rules.

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    Default creole pidgin

    tdol provided:

    The international nature of English makes it inevitable that a true international variety will emerge, where rules may well be determined by non-native speakers.
    According to history, tdol, you're right on the money!

    pidgin – A simplified version of some language, often augmented by features from other languages. A pidgin typically arises in colonial situations and is used solely as a trade language. Unlike creoles, pidgins do not have native speakers.

    creole – A language that developed from a pidgin by expanding its vocabulary and acquiring a more complex grammatical structure.

    http://www.ling.ohio-state.edu/resea...m#creolization


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    Beginners will be at a cross road if there isn't anything to go by as far as learning a language is concerned
    Children learn language from their language providers: parents, extended family, people in the community, and so on. School aged children learn standard English in school and soon realize that what people say at home and in the community, even on their favorite TV program is not necessarily the standard nor for that matter grammatically correct, ain't that the truth. Coming up against crossroads is part of the learning process.

    ESL/EFL students learn language from teachers who use textbooks, the contents of which espouse the standard dialect at the time. However, that may be, learners of a second language are forever commenting on the differences in language use among native speakers, e.g. "How can I learn English if its speakers keep changing the rules?" At the present time in the history of English, ESL/EFL students are finding that there are a great deal of crossroads out there.

    I agree with you there whl626.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whl626
    Quote Originally Posted by tdol
    The international nature of English makes it inevitable that a true international variety will emerge, where rules may well be determined by non-native speakers.
    Beginners will be at a cross road if there isn't anything to go by as far as learning a language is concerned :P
    Um, that's crossroads. A cross road would be a road that's surly. :wink:

    Go here: http://www.infoplease.com/ipd/A0393918.html
    (definition 3b)

    :)

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