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    Exclamation Correct phrase

    Hello.

    Can you explain what variant of "transition" pronunciation is better:
    [trŠn'zi(sh)n] or [trŠn'si(zh)n] or [trŠn'si(sh)n]. And what's the difference.

    Will you explain what variant of the following phrase is better:
    "Attention, crew on station!" or "Attention, crew at station!". This expression may be used by aircraft crew, while communicating with passengers via intercom.

    Thank you for reply.

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    Re: Correct phrase

    I think they're all fine. In isolation, I would start the second syllable with an 's' sound rather than a 'z', but would use the voiced (z) sound in connected speech. The difference is whether the sound is voiced (with a vibration in the throat) or not.

    On an aeroplane, I'd use 'on', but I'm not a pilot.

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    Re: Correct phrase

    Is english language your native language?

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    Re: Correct phrase

    Yes

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    Re: Correct phrase

    Quote Originally Posted by tdol
    I think they're all fine. In isolation, I would start the second syllable with an 's' sound rather than a 'z', but would use the voiced (z) sound in connected speech. The difference is whether the sound is voiced (with a vibration in the throat) or not.

    On an aeroplane, I'd use 'on', but I'm not a pilot.
    Ya tdol...of course you are not a pilot.
    If you are....either would you be an editor to this usingenglish.com or replying people's questions!

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    Re: Correct phrase

    In addition, from a North American perspective, 1. is preferred.

    1. [trŠn'zishn] (three consecutive voiced sounds)

    2. [trŠn'si][zhn] (odd; zh should be sh. -sion is a suffix)

    3. [trŠn'sishn] (awkward to pronounce. The environment is voiced, so [s] should also be voiced. If a speaker produced 3. it's because they are treating the syllable boundary as an affix boundary, as in 2. )

    "Attention, crew on station!" or "Attention, crew at station!"
    They're both odd. What about?

    Attention, please. This is the crew speaking.

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    Re: Correct phrase

    Thank you for reply.
    "Attention, crew XX station" is a standard phraseological call.
    I always heard and read "on" preposition, but recently found out, that somebody wrote "at" in one document.
    As for me, I think that "on" is more correct, because there is a standard phrase "on air".

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    Re: Correct phrase

    "at (the) station" (i.e., at the mic) sounds fine, too.

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    Re: Correct phrase

    (4Casiopea):
    What dictionary have you used to describe the problem, concerning "transition" pronunciation? Thank you.

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    Re: Correct phrase

    Dictionary? Hmm. I'm a linguist, mdw 75, and a native speaker, so I used my head.

    All the best,

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