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    Default adjective which must be followed by noun

    Hi All,

    it is about adjective which must be followed by noun

    for example 'fun' as an adjective
    this dictionary says that fun must be followed by noun

    why ?

    how do I know that 'this adjective' must be followed by a noun
    is there common pattern / rule to make it easier so that I don't have to remember the list of adjectives which must be followed by noun ?

    thanks

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    Default Re: adjective which must be followed by noun

    Thanks for your explanation

    I ask this question on the basis of fun definition by Macmillan Dictionary: Free British English English Dictionary Online with Thesaurus

    fun - definition of fun, by Macmillan Dictionary: Free English Dictionary Online and Thesaurus.

    definition of fun


    ADJECTIVE [ONLY BEFORE NOUN] /fʌn/

    Once again thanks so much

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    Default Re: adjective which must be followed by noun

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post

    A - Oh, it was fun!
    'fun' is not an adjective here.
    It was enormous fun. -- an adjective (enormous) does not modify another adjective. An adjective modifies a noun

    Just think of this idiom:
    http://dictionaries.cambridge.org/de...fun*1+0&dict=I

    'games' is a noun and so has to be the other conjoin, 'fun'.

    this dictionary says that fun must be followed by noun. Why?
    The word class of adjectives have three distinct distributional properties covered by these terms:

    - attributive
    -postpositive
    - predicative

    The adjective 'fun' belongs to the attributive class.

    Fun - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

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    Default Re: adjective which must be followed by noun

    To : Corum

    Well, Macmillan DIctionary says that fun can be a noun or an adjective

    but it functions as an adjective, it must be followed by a noun - see link above from macmillan -- only before a noun

    Another thing, is it true that some adjective must be followed by a noun, otherwise the sentence is grammatically incorrect ?

    Which adjective is that ? and is there any hint/clue to know which adjective that must be followed with noun ?

    Thanks
    Last edited by duiter; 26-May-2010 at 19:07. Reason: incorrrect grammar

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    Please note I have deleted my original reply as it was incorrect. Apologies. This is why I'm not a grammar teacher, but a usage teacher!

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    Default Re: adjective which must be followed by noun

    Quote Originally Posted by duiter View Post
    To : Corum

    Well, Macmillan DIctionary says that fun can be a noun or an adjective
    That is correct.

    Quote Originally Posted by duiter View Post
    but it functions as an adjective, it must be followed by a noun - see link above from macmillan -- only before a noun
    But when it functions... . In other words, it is an attributive adjective.

    Quote Originally Posted by duiter View Post
    Another thing, is it true that some adjective must be followed by a noun, otherwise the sentence is grammatically incorrect ?
    Yes. 'former' has solely such distribution. And so does 'fun' when it is an adj.

    former President
    President former -- postpositive
    President elect -- postpositive
    President is former -- predicative

    There are many adjectives that can function attributively as well as predicatively:

    a happy boy
    the boy is happy
    nice guy
    the guy is nice



    Quote Originally Posted by duiter View Post
    Which adjective is that ? and is there any hint/clue to know which adjective that must be followed with noun ?

    Thanks
    No hint. Adjective distribution is an idiosyncratic feature, that is, unpredictable. Idiomatic stuff.
    Last edited by corum; 26-May-2010 at 19:28.

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    Default Re: adjective which must be followed by noun

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    Please note I have deleted my original reply as it was incorrect. Apologies. This is why I'm not a grammar teacher, but a usage teacher!
    As long as you devote your time and effort with the sole intention of making other people's life easier, you are a hero. In my eyes you are just like any other helpers here or anywhere. No sweat, I am much worse in English than you still I am here to help (AND LEARN).

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    Default Re: adjective which must be followed by noun

    To Corum

    Thanks for your explanation
    your explanation is highly appreciated

    Obviously, your English is much better than mine

    Have a nice day

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