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    Default re: Nightmare85's "a/an alphabet"

    I agree about the spellings of the letters and for it to be truly international, it would have to use the phonetic symbols.

    Having said that, I can't decipher the phonetic symbols and none of my students use them. Consequently, here in Spain, my students and I write pronunciations of words/letters which make sense to them, using Spanish pronunciation. I realise that would be no use for a student from another country!

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    Default re: Nightmare85's "a/an alphabet"

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    I agree about the spellings of the letters and for it to be truly international, it would have to use the phonetic symbols.

    Having said that, I can't decipher the phonetic symbols and none of my students use them. Consequently, here in Spain, my students and I write pronunciations of words/letters which make sense to them, using Spanish pronunciation. I realise that would be no use for a student from another country!
    Most of the letters are spelled in IPA as they would be in Spanish anyhow. eɪ, bi, si,di, i ...
    The only problems you're likely to have are:
    g, h, j, o, q, u, w, y.

    g /ʤi/

    h /eɪʧ/

    j /ʤeɪ/

    o /əʊ/oʊ/

    q /kju/

    u /ju/

    w /dʌbl ju/
    y /w /

    Anyhow, it would take you only an hour or two to master the consonants necessary for English, and perhaps another two hours for the vowels and diphthongs. It looks more complicated than it actually is. (Except for when you're trying to type them nicely on this blessd software!)


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    Default re: Nightmare85's "a/an alphabet"

    Hello guys and thanks for your advice.
    I made some new changes, I hope you like them.

    Version 1.4
    - corrected the O mistake
    - removed all +- symbols in order to make it clearer
    - fixed all phonetics
    - changed the order of some examples
    - added some advice sentences
    - reduced font size of the version history
    Maybe this thread could be moved to the FAQ section: "A or an?" some day

    I think I will also try to explain things like:
    A European. - An Emergency.
    A house. - An hour.
    A one-winged angel. - An oil rig.
    A uniform - An unpleasant moment.

    Currently, readers don't see the reason why to use a/an here.
    (It neither matches the alphabet logic nor gets explained.)

    Cheers!

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    Default Re: Nightmare85's "a/an alphabet"

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    The only spelling of "h" I usually see is "aitch".
    Is it? I also see "haitch" sometimes and my Irish teacher (gosh, how long ago it was!) would even say "hitch" (I never saw her write it though).

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    Default Re: Nightmare85's "a/an alphabet"

    mmasny, you're right, but I did not include it since it might have confused members.
    The one site, where I took my information from, says:
    Sometimes pronounced [heɪtʃ] in Irish and Australian English.

    There are some exceptions anyway.
    Historic can be pronounced both [historic] and [istoric], which would mean both a and an can be right - probably depending on the location/place (where you are).

    By the way, I updated the main thread some hours ago.

    Version 1.5
    - added a general rule (when to use a
    or an)
    - removed a redundand intro sentence
    - moved and extended the "ask yourself"-sentence
    - fixed some minor comma mistakes


    Cheers!

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    Default Re: Nightmare85's "a/an alphabet"

    This is a good and fairly complete guide. Thanks.

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