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    Default Re: You wish you knew

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare85 View Post
    Thanks, guys.

    Raymott, okay, building example sentences is one of my big weak points.
    Please, check this:
    P1: Will Argentina win the FIFA World Cup 2010?
    P2: I wish I knew.
    (Of course we could also say, "You wish you knew.")
    Well, I was trying to say that we would not say "You wish you knew". That's not an English phrase.
    You can say, "I wish I knew", as bertie pointed out.


    bertietheblue says it is correct, so we don't need to write:
    You wish you knew it.
    You wish you knew that.
    You wish you knew this.

    Do you agree?
    What Bertie actually wrote was:
    This a very strange answer to a simple question. Why on earth would you say this and what do you mean?"
    I agree that you don't need to add anything to a phrase that you wouldn't use in the first place. And I agree with Bertie that it's a very strange answer.
    Cheers!
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    Question Re: You wish you knew

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare85 View Post
    Let's say someone asks me, "Who are you?", and my answer would be:
    You wish you knew!
    Out of curiosity (and apart from the grammar), do you mean a tongue-in-cheek answer like "You would only like to know, matey! " Am I right?



    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    If you need to give a rude answer, try:

    A: "Who are you?"
    B1: "Wouldn't you like to know!"
    Is it really that mean? Of course, it's obviously not like "I am X.Y., at your service." , but is it rude? I thought it had the same meaning like "You don't want to know that!". (Though granted, the latter is really not too polite. ) Besides I think you used the exclamation mark for a reason, didn't you? Would the question mark change the meaning from a sarcastic answer to a simple question? I (kinda ) think it would.



    PS: @Raymott,
    Would you be so kind as to correct my mistakes, please? I'd like to learn from them.

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    Default Re: You wish you knew

    Quote Originally Posted by ~Mav~ View Post
    Out of curiosity (and apart from the grammar), do you mean a tongue-in-cheek answer like "You would only like to know, matey! " Am I right?
    Yes

    Cheers!

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    Default Re: You wish you knew

    Quote Originally Posted by ~Mav~ View Post
    Out of curiosity (and apart from the grammar), do you mean a tongue-in-cheek answer like, "You would only like to know, matey! " Am I right?
    Is it really that mean? Of course, it's obviously not like, "I am X.Y., at your service." , but is it rude? I thought it had the same meaning like, "You don't want to know that!". (Though granted, the latter is really not too polite. ) Besides, I think you used the exclamation mark for a reason, didn't you? Would the question mark change the meaning from a sarcastic answer to a simple question? I (kinda kind of ) think it would.
    I'm not Raymott, but I tried it too.

    P.S: Exclamation mark -> You used it too, and I think the reason is the same

    Cheers!

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    Thumbs up Re: You wish you knew

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare85 View Post
    I'm not Raymott, but I tried it too.
    Thank you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare85 View Post
    P.S: Exclamation mark -> You used it too, and I think the reason is the same
    Not exactly. If you mean "You would only like to know, matey!", this is obviously not a question, while "Wouldn't you like to know!" starts like an ordinary question, and it could be a question, though with a different meaning, in my humble opinion. (That's what I asked Raymott. )

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare85 View Post
    I (kinda kind of ) think it would.
    Oh, please!... I deliberately wrote "kinda", and I did it for a reason. (I am totally aware of phrases like "gonna", "kinda", "gotta", etc.)
    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare85 View Post
    Besides, I
    Yep!

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare85 View Post
    it had the same meaning like,
    I'm not sure about it, but I believe you. Frankly, I don't intend to take any exam, so generally I consider these nuances, with which I can live together, so to speak. (I am NOT referring to "extra information" clauses, etc., and I also would put a comma after "like" if I inserted "for example" after it.) Honestly, I am much more concerned about things like word order, using correct tenses (and correct words, of course), writing complex sentences, etc. I wish a comma or two, or the lack of them were my only problems and mistakes. *sigh*


    Anyway, I don't want to hijack your thread, not to mention that if I write too much, Raymott might not have either the time, or the inclination to correct my sentences, and I don't want to risk that.

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    Default Re: You wish you knew

    I learned to put commas as soon as you begin with a direct speak.

    Let's say someone asks you, "How are you?".
    My father told me, "You have a new job."
    My father told me that I had a new job.

    Many members use commas in such sentences.
    (Except for sentence 3.)

    Cheers!

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