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    I pronunciate with as wɪθ. (As far as I know it's wiğ in BrE). But for being practical, is it OK to pronunciate with the as wiği or wiğə?

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    Quote Originally Posted by euncu View Post
    I pronunciate with as wɪθ. (As far as I know it's wiğ in BrE). But for being practical, is it OK to pronunciate 'with the' as wiği or wiğə?
    It's normally pronounced /wIθğə/, /wIθği/ (smallcap I)
    The tongue position doesn't change (θ is not released), but the unvoiced /θ/ becomes the voiced /ğ/ halfway through.
    No, "with the" is not pronounced 'wither' or 'withee'. It's a definite double consonant, and if 'with' is /wiğ/, it becomes /wiğğə/, with the ğ given double value as in Italian double letters, for example.

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    In some regions in the UK, you'll hear 'wiv' there, but not everybody will like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    It's normally pronounced
    It's strange to find out that I've been using a verb (to pronunciate) that doesn't exist (I looked up after your reply) for a long time. But although it doesn't exist my version sounded elegant than pronouncing.

    Thanks for having made me realize my mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by euncu View Post
    It's strange to find out that I've been using a verb (to pronunciate) that doesn't exist (I looked up after your reply) for a long time. But although it doesn't exist my version sounded elegant than pronouncing.
    My favorite dictionary knows your word:
    dict.cc | pronunciate | Wrterbuch Englisch-Deutsch


    Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by euncu View Post
    It's strange to find out that I've been using a verb (to pronunciate) that doesn't exist (I looked up after your reply) for a long time. But although it doesn't exist my version sounded elegant than pronouncing.

    Thanks for having made me realize my mistake.
    It's not so bad, it's just rare to extinct. All the -iate verbs come straight from the French -er verbs, and prononcer exists, so you've no reason to feel ashamed.

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    Default Re: with the

    Nightmare85 and konungursvia, thanks for your replies. I had looked for a confirmation on both Dictionary, Encyclopedia and Thesaurus - The Free Dictionary and Dictionary and Thesaurus - Merriam-Webster Online and found out that they didn't contain this word. So I took it that this word didn't exist. Maybe, I shouldn't have counted on these online dictionaries as absolute sources for English words. And, finally, for the sake of not being sounded unnatural (yet grammatical), I'll get myself used to using "to pronounce".

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