[Idiom] claim for

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Hello!


I need your help on these ones!

Which is the right idiom: to claim something or to claim for something?

-Do we actually need "for" in these cases?:
-ask someone for their consent
-ask someone for their car
-ask someone for their permission

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Hi Will17,

Here are a few connotations of the verb “claim”:

This matter claims attention.
Magical properties are sometimes claimed for certain medicines.
The discoverer claimed the island for the nation.
He claimed the victory.
He claimed that he'd been cheated.
You should be able to claim against the car insurance.
She claims to own this property.
We have to claim to be exempt.
We must to claim one's right.
I claim that the hearing should be postponed.
The young prince has to claim the throne.
May I not claim your confidence?
We have the intention to claim on you.
I claim that it is false.
He is claimed to be the only survivor.
He claimed to have reached the top of the mountain.
He claimed to be the best tennis-player in the school.
Compensation could be claimed against the government for the loss to the owner.
The Hillsborough Stadium disaster claimed the lives of 96 Liverpool supporters.

Regarding to the noun “claim” the things are a far cry from this above.

a far cry = very different from;-)

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-Do we actually need "for" in these cases?:
-ask someone for their consent
-ask someone for their car
-ask someone for their permission

Yes, Will, you do.

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Will you say: Can I ask you for your car?

Can we say: Can I ask you your car?

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Will you say: Can I ask you for your car? Yes, I might say that.

Can we say: Can I ask you your car? No.

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-ask someone for their consent
-ask someone for their car
-ask someone for their permission

Yes, Will, you do.

Rover

:up: - ...almost always. If you're making a claim for money FOR something, you need 'for'*. If, for example you win a car in a competition and you go to the arranger of the competition to claim it, you could say 'I've come to claim my car' (the car is the thing you're claiming).

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PS * But 'permission' is a special case; the 'for' is implied. So people can say, for example, 'There's no need to ask for my permission' or 'There's no need to ask permission'
 
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Fair point, Bob.

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Can we say "to claim FOR a credit note"?

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Can we say "to claim FOR a credit note"?

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I don't think so. As cash is specifically not involved, it feels odd to me. I'd say 'spend' (on the analogy of cash) or 'present' (/prɪ'zent/) on the analogy of banking a cheque. I suppose you could claim AGAINST a credit note... not sure:?:

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PS The obvious term 'cash in' (what you do with your chips after a night at the casino) is ruled out because you can't exchange it for cash.
 
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