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    Default simple past with "yet" ,"alredy"

    If I took an exam, would you consider the following sentences to be grammaticaly incorrec?

    "Did you hear that yet?" ( Instead of "have you")
    OR
    " Go get some wine"
    " I already did''

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    Default Re: simple past with "yet" ,"alredy"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ostap77 View Post
    If I took an exam, would you consider the following sentences as grammatically incorrect?

    "Did you hear that yet?" (Instead of "have you")
    Or
    "Go get some wine!"
    "I already did.''
    To be honest: Yes, I would consider them as grammatically incorrect.
    (Except sentence 2 - "Go get some wine!" because it is the short form of "Go and get some wine!")

    Although I'm a big fan of American English I really dislike it when people use already, just, yet, etc. without putting in Simple Past elements.

    I would fully accept:
    I already got some wine yesterday.
    You cannot say, "I have already got some wine yesterday," because yesterday is over.
    This means the Simple Past is necessary here.
    If you don't put any Simple Past elements, then just stick to:
    I've already done that.
    Have you already heard that yet/so far?

    Anyway it's fully normal for American English - so your sentences would be okay there.

    Cheers!

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    Default Re: simple past with "yet" ,"alredy"

    Quote Originally Posted by ostap77 View Post
    If I took an exam, would you consider the following sentences to be grammatically incorrect?

    "Did you hear that yet?" ( Instead of "have you")
    OR
    " Go get some wine"
    " I already did''
    As you have asked, I have to say that I would mark both as wrong.

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    Default Re: simple past with "yet" ,"alredy"

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare85 View Post
    ***Neither a teacher nor a native speaker.***



    To be honest: Yes, I would consider them as grammatically incorrect.
    (Except sentence 2 - "Go get some wine!" because it is the short form of "Go and get some wine!")

    Although I'm a big fan of American English I really dislike it when people use already, just, yet, etc. without putting in Simple Past elements.

    I would fully accept:
    I already got some wine yesterday. Here, "already" is redundant and ugly.
    You cannot say, "I have already got some wine yesterday," because yesterday is over.
    This means the Simple Past is necessary here.
    If you don't put any Simple Past elements, then just stick to:
    I've already done that.
    Have you already heard that yet/so far? Here, either "already", "yet" or "so far" is redundant. "Have you already heard that?" "Have you heard that yet?" or possibly, "Have you heard that so far?"

    Anyway it's fully normal for American English - so your sentences would be okay there.

    Cheers!
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    Default Re: simple past with "yet" ,"alredy"

    Have you already heard that yet/so far?

    Sorry, that was a typo.
    Already doesn't belong here, yes.

    P.S. Private message?

    Cheers!

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    Default Re: simple past with "yet" ,"alredy"

    What should one use instead of "I already did?" I already have done so?

    That's a lot of words.

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    Default Re: simple past with "yet" ,"alredy"

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare85 View Post
    Have you already heard that yet/so far?

    Sorry, that was a typo.
    Already doesn't belong here, yes.

    P.S. Private message?

    Cheers!
    That's pretty much about the difference the AmE and BE usage. Any advice would be appreciated.

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    Default Re: simple past with "yet" ,"alredy"

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    As you have asked, I have to say that I would mark both as wrong.
    So would I.

    Rover

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rover_KE View Post
    So would I.

    Rover

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    Default Re: simple past with "yet" ,"alredy"

    Quote Originally Posted by SoothingDave View Post
    What should one use instead of "I already did?" I already have done so?

    That's a lot of words.
    To my knowledge, "I've already done." Why are you putting "already" before the auxiliary? Is it a common practice where you live?

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