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    Default The Sequence of Tenses

    I'm not sure but I once heard that the sequence of tenses can be ignored, I mean you don't have to go one tense back, if facts presented in the sentence are still true:


    "She asked,if he knew that they had lived for three years in Kyiv and had been living in Amsterdam for two years now"

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    "She asked,If he knows that they had lived for three years in Kyiv and have been livig in Amsterdam for two years now"

    In this sentence " he knows" and have been living" both refer to the present time. Shouldn't I change "had lived" to "have lived"? Is "had lived" still possible?

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    Default Re: The Sequence of Tenses

    Quote Originally Posted by ostap77 View Post
    I'm not sure but I once heard that the sequence of tenses can be ignored, I mean you don't have to go one tense back, if facts presented in the sentence are still true:


    "She asked,if he knew that they had lived for three years in Kyiv and had been living in Amsterdam for two years now"

    OR

    "She asked,If he knows that they had lived for three years in Kyiv and have been livig in Amsterdam for two years now"

    In this sentence " he knows" and have been living" both refer to the present time. Shouldn't I change "had lived" to "have lived"? Is "had lived" still possible?
    Only the first sentence is correct.

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    Default Re: The Sequence of Tenses

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    Only the first sentence is correct.
    Any comments from the Americans?

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    Default Re: The Sequence of Tenses

    Is this what you mean?

    She asked if he knew that

    they had (previously) lived for three years in Kyiv and

    have been living (currently) in Amsterdam for two years now"

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    Default Re: The Sequence of Tenses

    Quote Originally Posted by susiedqq View Post
    Is this what you mean?

    She asked if he knew that

    they had (previously) lived for three years in Kyiv and

    have been living (currently) in Amsterdam for two years now"
    Yes that's what I was trying to say at the very begining. As I've already said I heard once that if some actions refer to the present time the one tense back rule can be ignored.

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    Default Re: The Sequence of Tenses

    Quote Originally Posted by ostap77 View Post
    to go one tense back,
    A little help ;

    going one tense back = backshifting

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    Default Re: The Sequence of Tenses

    Quote Originally Posted by euncu View Post
    A little help ;

    going one tense back = backshifting
    Wating for your reply susiedqq. Other teachers are welome to answer.

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    Default Re: The Sequence of Tenses

    Quote Originally Posted by ostap77 View Post
    Wating for your reply susiedqq. Other teachers are welome to answer.
    Could you please give me an answer to the one tense back rule and the example given above&
    Last edited by ostap77; 17-Sep-2010 at 21:46.

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    Default Re: The Sequence of Tenses

    Quote Originally Posted by ostap77 View Post
    Could you please give me an answer to the one tense back rule and the example given above&
    Some more info on the tense thing?

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    Default Re: The Sequence of Tenses

    Quote Originally Posted by ostap77 View Post
    Some more info on the tense thing?
    Any info?

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