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    Can native AmE and BrE speakers confirm this?

    I was taught that till is not used if it is connected with from (the correct construct is from-to).


    Examples:

    I was watching it from 5 to 6.

    I was watching it till 6.


    But not:

    I was watching it from 5 till 6.


    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by enthink View Post
    Can native AmE and BrE speakers confirm this?

    I was taught that till is not used if it is connected with from (the correct construct is from-to).


    Examples:

    I was watching it from 5 to 6.

    I was watching it till 6.


    But not:

    I was watching it from 5 till 6.


    Thanks!
    Yes, use "from 5 to 6" or "(un)til 6".

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    Thanks. I was asking because in this post an Australian VIP member broke that rule. So it looks like it is an Australian exception to the rule.

    What about Americans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by enthink View Post
    Thanks. I was asking because in this post an Australian VIP member broke that rule. So it looks like it is an Australian exception to the rule.

    What about Americans?
    Actually he did not. It's 'til which is an abbreviation for until.

    cheers

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    Default Re: From-till?

    On Google, I get the following hits:
    803,000 for "from dust till dawn"
    319,000 for "from dusk until dawn"
    317,000 for "from dusk 'til dawn"

    Unfortunately Google doesn't make distinctions between "til" and " 'til"
    But the mind boggles over the results one would get for "from x till y", where x and y can be any appropriate words.
    So I think the VIP member was right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    But the mind boggles over the results one would get for "from x till y", where x and y can be any appropriate words.
    Maybe BNU could help? I'll post a picture that should explain how to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by birdeen's call View Post
    Maybe BNU could help? I'll post a picture that should explain how to do that.
    Yes, you should be able to use variables with regular expressions.
    Let's know if you discover the formula!

    PS: From * till * works, but it also gives "From the till ..."
    I should work out how to use these corpora.
    Last edited by Raymott; 02-Oct-2010 at 12:09.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    Yes, you should be able to use variables with regular expressions.
    Let's know if you discover the formula!
    Isn't the formula on the picture right?

    PS: If you click the question mark to the right of COLLOCATES box, you'll get help about it. There are ways to force nouns, adjectives and so one. I'm too lazy to try.
    Last edited by birdeen's call; 02-Oct-2010 at 12:08.

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    Default Re: From-till?

    hi,

    from [cardinal number] to [cardinal number]

    from [cardinal number] until [cardinal number]

    from [cardinal number] till [cardinal number]

    from [cardinal number] till [cardinal number]

    no matches for 'til

    I think the issue here is that both forms 'til and till are considered by some people as valid abbreviations of until.

    cheers;
    PS Birdeen's call, I can't see the picture you posted.

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    Default Re: From-till?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaskin View Post
    Actually he did not. It's 'til which is an abbreviation for until.
    He did. And yes I know what 'til means.

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