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    That I becomes Thar I . what name is this process?

    Hi all,

    If I have phonetic sounds like (that I, go to, but how, about it) and these sounds have the sound r as ( thar i, gor to, bur how, abour it) . what do we usulally call this process?

    brief explanation would help me understand this process.

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    Re: That I becomes Thar I . what name is this process?

    This sound is the alveolar flap. It's what many languages (like mine) denote by the letter R, but English does not. Its symbol in the IPA is ɾ. Here is an article from Wikipedia about the sound. And here is an article from Wikpedia about the process.

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    Re: That I becomes Thar I . what name is this process?

    Quote Originally Posted by semantics12345 View Post
    Hi all,

    If I have phonetic sounds like (that I, go to, but how, about it) and these sounds have the sound r as ( thar i, gor to, bur how, abour it) . what do we usulally call this process?

    brief explanation would help me understand this process.
    BC may be right, but it seems possible you may be mis-hearing a glottal stop. In some dialects, alveolar flaps and glottal stops have an interesting correlation. If you can find a recording, listen to Tommy Steele's 'Lil whi'[te] bull'. The title has two glottal stops in it (and a vocalized dark 'l' for that matter - likewise characteristic of Cockney).

    But in the last verse, the lyrics are:

    'The ma'adors cried
    Toro! li'l bull -
    You're norra li'l bull...'

    In 'not a' one might expect a glottal stop [ɂ]. But the internal rhyme with 'Toro' suggests that there is an alveolar flap.

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    Re: That I becomes Thar I . what name is this process?

    BobK may well be right about mishearing a glottal stop but people from Liverpool certainly produce something like a /r/ when/t/ comes between two vowels. The Liverpool realisation of /r/, however, tends to be [ɹ].

    I'm afraid I can't help you with the original question about the name of this process

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    Re: That I becomes Thar I . what name is this process?

    Quote Originally Posted by fivejedjon View Post

    I'm afraid I can't help you with the original question about the name of this process
    The name of the process is "flapping".

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