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    Smile Halloween - correct pronunciation?

    Do British people pronounce the "w" in "Halloween"?
    Is the American pronunciation the same as the British?
    Thanks in advance.

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    Smile Re: Halloween - correct pronunciation?

    Hi!
    yeah! the "w" of halloween is pronounciated as a "u" but the mouth has got the same shape as you were saying a "o".The phonetic symbol of this kind of "u" is "ʊ", but i don't know the difference beteween the U.S. pronounciation and the british one...

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    Default Re: Halloween - correct pronunciation?

    Quote Originally Posted by bowiefrisch View Post
    Do British people pronounce the "w" in "Halloween"?
    Is the American pronunciation the same as the British?
    Thanks in advance.
    Yes, you pronounce the 'w'.
    Simply it's "Hallo" + "ween", but the 'o' is shortened, and also weakened almost to a schwa in AusE, and perhaps elsewhere.

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    Default Re: Halloween - correct pronunciation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aeneus23 View Post
    Hi!
    yeah! the "w" of halloween is pronounciated as a "u" but the mouth has got the same shape as you were saying a "o".The phonetic symbol of this kind of "u" is "ʊ", but i don't know the difference beteween the U.S. pronounciation and the british one...
    Aeneus,
    1. It is not pronounced (pronunciated) as "u".
    2. /ʊ/is the symbol representing the vowel sound in the word put.
    3. the phonemic symbol for the sound represented by the letter w in hallowe'en is /w/

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    Default Re: Halloween - correct pronunciation?

    Thanks for the correction of "pronounced"; as for halloween, why is the u of halloween written like a /ʊ/ on the vocabulary?.I'm asking you this question because this difference between the real sound and that which is written on the vocabulary it's very common in other words! For example the word "more" is written on the vocabulary with this symbol /ɔ/. but actually "more" is pronounced with this kind of o /o/ (closed). could you explain this difference to me?

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    Default Re: Halloween - correct pronunciation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aeneus23 View Post
    Thanks for the correction of "pronounced"; as for halloween, why is the u of halloween written like a /ʊ/ on the vocabulary?.I'm asking you this question because this difference between the real sound and that which is written on the vocabulary it's very common in other words! For example the word "more" is written on the vocabulary with this symbol /ɔ/. but actually "more" is pronounced with this kind of o /o/ (closed). could you explain this difference to me?
    As far as BrE is concerned, hallowe'en is pronounced/hæləʊˈiːn/; the ʊ/ symbols represent the O (oh) diphthong sound of hallow. We do not usually put in a symbol for /w/, as this sound happens automatically when the speaker glides from ʊ/to /iː/.

    As regards more,
    /ɔ:/ is the generally accepted symbol for this sound. For most writers on phonology, the sound represented by the symbol /o/ does not exist in English.
    Last edited by 5jj; 03-Nov-2010 at 11:48. Reason: typo

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    Default Re: Halloween - correct pronunciation?

    Quote Originally Posted by fivejedjon View Post
    As far as BrE is concerned, hallowe'en is pronounced/hæləʊˈiːn/; the /əʊ/ symbols represent the O (oh) diphthong sound of hallow. We do not usually put in a symbol for /w/, as this sound happens automatically when the speaker glides from /əʊ/to /iː/.

    As regards more, /ɔ/ is the generally accepted symbol for this sound. For most writers on phonology, the sound represented by the symbol /o/ does not exist in English.
    On the other hand, I say /ˌhæləˈwi:n/, which is given as an alternative pronunciation here: Halloween | Define Halloween at Dictionary.com
    If you don't pronounce a full /əʊ/, you need to insert the /w/.


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