Results 1 to 10 of 10
  1. #1
    benwise is offline Newbie
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • Student or Learner
      • Native Language:
      • English
      • Home Country:
      • England
      • Current Location:
      • UK
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Posts
    1
    Post Thanks / Like

    Smile tesol qualified/no degree

    Hello all, I have just passed a Tesol course and, with my girlfriend, am looking to teach abroad. I am a UK citizen and am open to working pretty much anywhere in the world. The problem is that I don't have a degree and am looking for advice/information as to whether this will prove a problem in terms of finding work. Should I be looking to organise work before I fly or are we better off finding work in person? Will a lack of degree inhibit me getting a working visa? Any advice/information would be gratefully appreciated. Thanks.

  2. #2
    5jj's Avatar
    5jj is offline VIP Member
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • Retired English Teacher
      • Native Language:
      • British English
      • Home Country:
      • England
      • Current Location:
      • Czech Republic
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Posts
    28,168
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default Re: tesol qualified/no degree

    Quote Originally Posted by benwise View Post
    1. Should I be looking to organise work before I fly or are we better off finding work in person? 2. Will a lack of degree inhibit me getting a working visa? Any advice/information would be gratefully appreciated. Thanks.
    Welcome to the forum, benwise.

    Sorry you have had to wait so long for an answer. I don't think mine is going to be very helpful, but it's a start. I'll answer the second question first, as the answer affects the first.

    2. Yes, the lack of degree will affect your chances of getting a visa in some countries. You must check this before you jet off anywhere, or you may find that you have wasted an air fare.

    1. The answer to this is very personal. There is no doubt that in some places arriving in a city and doing the rounds will land you a job. It's a good idea to have a carefully prepared c.v./resume to leave at each school. It helps if you can find out the name of the Director of Studies or person responsible for recruiting so that you can write your covering letter to a named peson, and put his/her name on the envelope you leave.

    When you arrive at a school to drop off your application, be clean, sober, and reasonably dressed. The person you see at the desk may be the person responsible for recruiting, and first impressions are important. Be prepared. There is just an off-chance that you may be asked if you are available for interview on the spot. It's unlikely, but you don't want to miss any chance.

    Whether or not you actually do try to find work in person depends a lot on your financial resources and time constraints. Can you afford to spend a couple of weeks or more in the foreign city while you are looking? Have you got the fare home if you are unsuccessful?

    If you apply from home, you can send off several email applications in the time it takes you to visit one school - and you can send to several countries unless you have fixed on one.

    So, there are some starting points.

    Good luck.

  3. #3
    Tdol is offline Editor, UsingEnglish.com
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • English Teacher
      • Native Language:
      • British English
      • Home Country:
      • UK
      • Current Location:
      • Philippines
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Posts
    42,773
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default Re: tesol qualified/no degree

    What areas did you have in mind? In addition to countries where a degree is required, areas where there is a lot of competition for jobs may also prove more difficult without one, so I'd check that first too.

  4. #4
    I'm With Stupid's Avatar
    I'm With Stupid is offline Senior Member
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • English Teacher
      • Native Language:
      • English
      • Home Country:
      • England
      • Current Location:
      • Vietnam
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    598
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default Re: tesol qualified/no degree

    Most countries require a degree for a work permit. Of course, being a UK citizen, you can work anywhere in the EU without one, so I'd suggest the new EU countries would be a good place to start looking.

  5. #5
    5jj's Avatar
    5jj is offline VIP Member
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • Retired English Teacher
      • Native Language:
      • British English
      • Home Country:
      • England
      • Current Location:
      • Czech Republic
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Posts
    28,168
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default Re: tesol qualified/no degree

    Quote Originally Posted by I'm With Stupid View Post
    Most countries require a degree for a work permit. Of course, being a UK citizen, you can work anywhere in the EU without one, so I'd suggest the new EU countries would be a good place to start looking.
    As a UK citizen, benwise has the right to work in any EU country. He does not have the automatic right to any job. It may well be that individual member countries insist on a certain level of qualification for entry into certain trades or professions, So long as they apply the same regulations and restrictions to citizens of all states as they do to their own, this is permissible.

    For example, as a British citizen I have the right to live and work in any EU country, but I would have problems if I wanted to work as a surgeon.

    I do not know how EU regulations affect teachers, but benwise would do well not to assume that he has the automatic right to teach in all EU countries simply because he has a Cert TESOL.

  6. #6
    I'm With Stupid's Avatar
    I'm With Stupid is offline Senior Member
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • English Teacher
      • Native Language:
      • English
      • Home Country:
      • England
      • Current Location:
      • Vietnam
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    598
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default Re: tesol qualified/no degree

    No, but to my knowledge, the degree requirement is rarely a teaching-specific requirement in countries where it's required.

  7. #7
    mdan1984 is offline Newbie
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • English Teacher
      • Native Language:
      • English
      • Home Country:
      • Canada
      • Current Location:
      • China
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Posts
    2
    Post Thanks / Like

    Smile Re: tesol qualified/no degree

    I have taught in China for 2 years already and never was asked for a degree. Now if I tried to get a work visa, then they want a degree. Now there are also places in China that will make fake degrees for you, but I never go that route. I just am honest and say I don't have a degree, and quite frankly I have seen many teachers that DON"T have a degree actually teach better than those with.

    My wife is Chinese and has a LOT of contacts and so it is EASY EASY for me to get an under the table job teaching English with no degree. The only problem is that I would be under a business visa that doesn't actually allow for me to work.

    At any rate, I have done it for 2 years and love it.

  8. #8
    Tdol is offline Editor, UsingEnglish.com
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • English Teacher
      • Native Language:
      • British English
      • Home Country:
      • UK
      • Current Location:
      • Philippines
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Posts
    42,773
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default Re: tesol qualified/no degree

    Quote Originally Posted by mdan1984 View Post
    quite frankly I have seen many teachers that DON"T have a degree actually teach better than those with.
    You say you have been teaching in China for just two years, so how many teachers have you studied and what methods did you use to arrive at this?

  9. #9
    mdan1984 is offline Newbie
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • English Teacher
      • Native Language:
      • English
      • Home Country:
      • Canada
      • Current Location:
      • China
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Posts
    2
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default Re: tesol qualified/no degree

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    You say you have been teaching in China for just two years, so how many teachers have you studied and what methods did you use to arrive at this?
    Hi there. Hope things are well with you.
    Not sure what you mean by how many teachers have I studied. I don't study teachers. I just work with them all the time. As an English teacher you often come in contact and relate to the other English teachers that either are at the same school you are or just elsewhere.
    And what methods did I use to arrive to............? What.
    Be more specific and I will give you a specific answer.

    God Bless
    Regards

    Michael

  10. #10
    Tdol is offline Editor, UsingEnglish.com
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • English Teacher
      • Native Language:
      • British English
      • Home Country:
      • UK
      • Current Location:
      • Philippines
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Posts
    42,773
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default Re: tesol qualified/no degree

    To make this sort of assessment, there has to be a method; otherwise, it's difficult to interpret. What proportion of teachers without degrees are better, and in what ways, than teachers with? How did you assess this?
    Last edited by Tdol; 17-Feb-2011 at 11:44.

Similar Threads

  1. master degree/master's degree ?
    By ph2004 in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 13-Feb-2010, 07:38
  2. [Vocabulary] Bachelor Degree OR Bachelor's Degree
    By Fairylord in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 26-Sep-2009, 05:44
  3. Replies: 1
    Last Post: 16-Mar-2009, 12:47
  4. qualified
    By Hanka in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 13-Feb-2009, 14:54
  5. online tesol diploma vs ma tesol
    By eflnow in forum Teaching English
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 30-Oct-2007, 15:02

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •