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    Default Re: Can anyone please answer my question?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ever Student View Post
    Which one is correct?
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    Corum, "How much beautiful is she" may be grammatically correct


    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    but a native English speaker would never say or write it
    "(S)eldom if ever" in place of "never" would be closer to the mark. Never say never. I see your point here and I agree.

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    Default Re: Can anyone please answer my question?

    I used the word 'normally' because 'how much' can be used with comparative forms.

    "How much richer is he now than he was last year?"

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    Default Re: Can anyone please answer my question?

    He is very much rich.
    or
    He is very much richer.

    Both are feasible, if the first is a tad constrained.

    I have to love you and leave you now. Thanks for the conversation.

    Best wishes: C.

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    Default Re: Can anyone please answer my question?

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    The only problem that I see is that they are not correct English.
    They are unacceptable in my dialect of English as well, but apparently acceptable in others.

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    Default Re: Can anyone please answer my question?

    I was interested to read an earlier comment, ' "How much beautiful is she" may be grammatically correct', as it is not acceptable in my dialect, either.
    In which dialects and/or contexts might it be acceptable?

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    Default Re: Can anyone please answer my question?

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson_F View Post
    I used the word 'normally' because 'how much' can be used with comparative forms.

    "How much richer is he now than he was last year?"
    Yes, but 'beautiful' is not a comparative. There's nothing wrong with "How much more beautiful is she (than her sister; than she was a few years ago).
    But "How much beautiful is she" is not standard English, and I don't think it's doing learners any favours to claim that it is.

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    Default Re: Can anyone please answer my question?

    She is beautiful. How much? Very much.
    She is beautiful very much.
    How much is she beautiful? Very much!

    But "How much beautiful is she" is not standard English
    Please explain why. Thanks!

    and I don't think it's doing learners any favours to claim that it is.
    Let us be more objective.

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    Default Re: Can anyone please answer my question?

    Quote Originally Posted by corum View Post



    Please explain why. Thanks!



    Let us be more objective.
    She is beautiful. How much? Very much.
    She is beautiful very much.
    How much is she beautiful? Very much!
    Both of these are non-standard English, (I would say incorrect English). "Much" is, in addition, completely redundant in both of those examples.
    "She is beautiful". "How beautiful?" "Very beautiful".
    "She is very beautiful".
    "How beautiful is she?" Very beautiful".
    Last edited by bhaisahab; 07-Dec-2010 at 16:59. Reason: Highlight

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    Default Re: Can anyone please answer my question?

    ?He is very appreciated.
    He is very beautiful.

    He is very much appreciated.
    ?He is very much beautiful.

    He is highly appreciated.
    He is highly beautiful.

    English is interesting, is it not?

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    Default Re: Can anyone please answer my question?

    Whereas gradable adjectives and adverbs are intensified by very: verbs are intensified by other intensifying adverbs such as much and well, which themselves are often premodified by very, eg: very much, very well.
    Quirk et. al.

    ?He is very appreciated.

    means the participle has verbal force rather than an adjectival force.

    I was wrong in stating that
    He is very much beautiful.
    is
    This is not standard English for reasons specified in this post.
    I apologize.

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