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    Default weak form of preposition

    Dear all,

    Is it possible to reduce preposition to weak form

    Turn on ( not phrasal verb ) : tɜː(r)n ən
    with linking /connecting : tɜː(r)nən

    Many thanks

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    Default Re: weak form of preposition

    Quote Originally Posted by duiter View Post
    Dear all,

    Is it possible to reduce preposition to weak form

    Turn on ( not phrasal verb ) : tɜː(r)n ən
    with linking /connecting : tɜː(r)nən

    Many thanks
    Yes and no.
    If you have to ask this type of question, it means that you need to listen to English more. You will not become more easily understood by trying to say "tɜː(r)nən" even if it sounds that way when some people say it - and if it does, then your question is answered.
    Learn "turn on", and once you are so familiar with using it in conversaton with other English speakers that you spontaneously weaken some of your sounds without being conscious of it, you will understand that such questions are pointless.

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    Default Re: weak form of preposition

    Actually, the vowel in 'on' is rarely weakened to /ə/ in any position. The only prepositions with common weak forms in BrE are at, by, for, from, of and to.

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    Default Re: weak form of preposition

    Thanks fivejedjon,

    so what is the IPA transcription for weak by

    is it / bə / ?
    Last edited by duiter; 16-Dec-2010 at 16:34. Reason: add ''the''

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    Default Re: weak form of preposition

    Quote Originally Posted by duiter View Post
    so what is the IPA transcription for weak by
    I'd have to see context for that.

    In I go to work by car, by could be somewhere in the /bə-bI/ area.

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    Default Re: weak form of preposition

    To Fivejedjon,

    Actually, the vowel in 'on' is rarely weakened to /ə/ in any position. The only prepositions with common weak forms in BrE are at, by, for, from, of and to

    Why do some preposition have weak / reduced form, such as '' at, from '' , while others don't have, such as '' on, up '' ?

    Why ''on and up '' is not reduced / don't have reduced/ weak form ?

    many thanks
    Last edited by duiter; 18-Dec-2010 at 10:43. Reason: edit

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    Default Re: weak form of preposition

    Sorry. I'll have to leave that to someone with knowledge to answer. I could only guess.

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