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    Re: when should I do "ain't"

    Fine, my friend. Continue to use "ain't" any old way you wish.

    Perhaps a bit more focus on the "not standard" and less on the various permutations would serve you better.

    I promise not to try to correct any future use you try to make of ain't.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: when should I do "ain't"

    Quote Originally Posted by e2e4 View Post
    I will have not listened to you by the year 2012.
    Is this sentence possible even in this form?

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    #13

    Re: when should I do "ain't"

    /A learner/

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    Fine, my friend. Continue to use "ain't" any old way you wish.

    Perhaps a bit more focus on the "not standard" and less on the various permutations would serve you better.

    I promise not to try to correct any future use you try to make of ain't.
    Dear Barb_D, I don't know what to think now.

    One more dictionary

    Definition and pronunciation of ain't | Oxford Advanced Learners Dictionary

    ain't

    short form
    eɪnt eɪnt
    (non-standard or humorous)


    1 am not/is not/are not
    Things ain't what they used to be.
    2 has not/have not
    I ain't got no money.You ain't seen nothing yet.

    Idioms
    if it ain't broke, don't fix it

    (informal) used to say that if something works well enough, it should not be changed

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    #14

    Re: when should I do "ain't"

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    Fine, my friend. Continue to use "ain't" any old way you wish.

    Perhaps a bit more focus on the "not standard" and less on the various permutations would serve you better.

    Ecuador Zero, Barb_D gave, in post #4, a reasoned response to your question. A similar response might well have been given by any person who understands how English is normally spoken/written by reasonably educated native speakers. If you think you know better, why do you bother to ask the opinion of members of this this forum?.

    I am with Barb_D: I promise not to try to correct any future use you try to make of ain't.

    I will just leave you to use unacceptable English.

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    #15

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    /A learner/

    Quote Originally Posted by birdeen's call View Post
    Is this sentence possible even in this form?
    Not without 'by" for sure.

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    #16

    Re: when should I do "ain't"

    Quote Originally Posted by birdeen's call View Post
    I will have not listened to you by the year 2012.
    Is this sentence possible even in this form?
    In theory one could concoct a highly unlikely situation in which this utterance might be possible.

    In reality, the short answer to your question is, of course, no.

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    #17

    Re: when should I do "ain't"

    I acknowledge that it can be for "has/have not," as it is in "You ain't seen nothing yet."

    That doesn't mean it can be dropped into place anywhere that "have not" would be used.

    I will have not seen him for six months by the time his ship returns.
    I will ain't seen him -- NO!

    This really is the last thing I'll say in this thread, so feel free to continue without me.
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    #18

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    Barb, this time, I am afraid I ain't proven your any point actually.
    e2e4, when your command of English is such that you do not produce utterances such as the one above, then I may read with interest your comments on Barb_D's posts.

    Until that time, why not try sitting back and reading what people with some knowledge have to say before posting your guesses and opinions?

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    #20

    Re: when should I do "ain't"

    e2e4, what these entries say is all right. But they do not contradict anything the teachers told you here. Barb_D has acknowledged that "ain't" can be used to mean haven't, hasn't sometimes. What is that still confuses you?

    I suggest that you read carefully what has been said on this thread. It's all sound advice.

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