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    Default Re: How to pronounce 'Muecke'

    Quote Originally Posted by mara_ce View Post
    Ive got the 15th Edition, 1997.

    It gives two pronunciations: /mju:lə/ and /mʊlə/.
    I've heard mainly the second of those, and a variety of approximations to [y]. I've heard the /ju:/ version only in very old speakers and in younger ones who use an old-fashioned pronunciation for comic effect. It's possible that in other English-speaking countries /ju:/ is used; after all an /m/ followed by a long U usually makes /mju:/ in the Br E pronunciation of English words - mucus, munificent, ammunition, mural, Muriel, music, mute...

    Again, it's not a question of using the correct German pronunciation. The 'correct' foreign pronunciation can be misleading. When I was selling (among other things) English-language magazines in Spain, I had most difficulty selling 'Motor Sport' because I wasn't mispronouncing it properly.

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    Default Re: How to pronounce 'Muecke'

    Quote Originally Posted by BobK View Post
    is used; after all an /m/ followed by a long U usually makes /mju:/ in the Br E pronunciation of English words - mucus, munificent, ammunition, mural, Muriel, music, mute...
    Don't mural and Muriel have a /ʊ/ (r-coloring maybe)?

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    Default Re: How to pronounce 'Muecke'

    *Not in any Br Eng speaker I've ever met.

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    PS This isn't to say that the written 'r' has no effect, different from that of other consonants, so that the /u:/ phoneme is realized in a different way. But what is different is the allophone. I'm talking about phonemes.

    *PPS I've checked in a few dictionaries, and it seems the /jʊər/ transcription is common. The allophone in question isn't [ʊ] or [u], so the transcriber has to choose between u-like phonemes; it seems I'm in the minority
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