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    pedagogical institute

    Hello!

    My colleague wrote the following sentence today:

    After I finished pedagogical institute, I undertook postgraduate studies.

    I don't really like this 'pedagogical institute' phrase. As far as I know, there isn't such a thing in English-speaking countries. However, the phrase is a word-by-word translation from Russian; the lady actually studied at institute (which is considered a higher educational institution a rank lower than a university). I also doubt the term 'pedagogical' sounds fine to native speakers' ears.
    Should we change it to "teachers' training university' or something? Should we keep the original translation (considering the target reader is native speakers)?

    Thank you in advance.
    Last edited by Verona_82; 06-Feb-2011 at 19:03. Reason: typos

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    Re: pedagogical institute

    Yes, Verona, you are on the right track. We would say Teachers' Training College which is not a university but used by both graduates and non graduates.
    As for the translation I suggest that the dictionary your colleague is using is not the best.

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    Re: pedagogical institute

    I don't think there are many Teacher Training Colleges that still go by that name left in Britain today. I don't know where teachers are trained in other English-speaking countries.

    Your colleague could always say, "When/After I (had) qualified as a teacher", or "After training/qualifying as a teacher." That should be clear to everybody.

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    Re: pedagogical institute

    So if she said 'institute' (having 'higher educational establishment' in mind), would she be misunderstood?

    I'm asking this question because a lot of people graduated from institutes which were very common in Russia up until the 90s. Then some of them were 'upgraded' and received a universtity status. We also have colleges, but people don't get higher education there (but in institutes they do). Anyway, it's always difficult dealing with cultural differences.

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    Re: pedagogical institute

    Quote Originally Posted by Verona_82 View Post
    So if she said 'institute' (having 'higher educational establishment' in mind), would she be misunderstood?
    She might
    We also have colleges, but people don't get higher education there (but in institutes they do). Anyway, it's always difficult dealing with cultural differences.
    That's why I suggested that your colleague avoid naming the institution/college.deaprtment/university/faculty,etc.

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