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    Smile Active sentences into personal passives

    Hi! I was studying how to change a normal active sentence into a personal passive one (where possible). The sentence I'm not sure was:

    While I was visiting Pike Place Market, someone threw a fish at me!

    I tryed

    While I was visiting Pike Place Market, a fish was thrown by someone at me.
    While I was visiting Pike Place Market, a fish was thrown at me by someone.

    Could someone give me a hint if some of these are right? And if possible, i didn't understand how is not possible to change a active sentence into a personal passive. Someone has a counterexample?

    I appreciate your comments.

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    Re: Active sentences into personal passives

    Quote Originally Posted by gintoki14m View Post
    While I was visiting Pike Place Market, someone threw a fish at me!

    I tryied

    1. While I was visiting Pike Place Market, a fish was thrown by someone at me.
    2. While I was visiting Pike Place Market, a fish was thrown at me by someone.

    #2 is more natural. #3, below, is even more natural:

    While I was visiting Pike Place Market, a fish was thrown at me.


    #Could someone give me a hint if some of these are right? And if possible, iI (didn't) don't understand how it is not possible to change an active sentence into a personal passive. Someone has a counterexample?
    What do you mean by 'personal passive?

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    Re: Active sentences into personal passives

    Thanks for the corrections! When I say Personal Passive i mean that the object of the active sentence becomes the subject of the passive sentence. Just to be different of the Impersonal Passive and other types of Passive.

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    Re: Active sentences into personal passives

    Quote Originally Posted by gintoki14m View Post
    Thanks for the corrections! When I say Personal Passive i mean that the object of the active sentence becomes the subject of the passive sentence. Just to be different of the Impersonal Passive and other types of Passive.
    ♥♦♣♠ NOT A TEACHER ♥♦♣♠
    ...I was thrown a fish at (by someone). but such an utterance is not common, if not impossible.

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    Re: Active sentences into personal passives

    Quote Originally Posted by engee30 View Post
    ♥♦♣♠ NOT A TEACHER ♥♦♣♠
    ...I was thrown a fish at (by someone). but such an utterance is not common, if not impossible.
    It is, indeed, impossible.

    We can, however, have, 'I was thrown a fish', where the active equivalent is 'X threw me a fish'.

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    Lightbulb Re: Active sentences into personal passives

    Quote Originally Posted by gintoki14m View Post
    Hi! I was studying how to change a normal active sentence into a personal passive one (where possible). The sentence I'm not sure was:

    While I was visiting Pike Place Market, someone threw a fish at me!

    I tryed

    While I was visiting Pike Place Market, a fish was thrown by someone at me.
    While I was visiting Pike Place Market, a fish was thrown at me by someone.

    Could someone give me a hint if some of these are right? And if possible, i didn't understand how is not possible to change a active sentence into a personal passive. Someone has a counterexample?

    I appreciate your comments.

    "A fish was thrown at me while I was visiting Pike Place Market."
    This could be a possible answer.
    (Subject to opinions)

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    Re: Active sentences into personal passives

    Quote Originally Posted by slim-shen View Post
    "A fish was thrown at me while I was visiting Pike Place Market."
    This could be a possible answer.
    That's the suggestion I made in post #2 - well, it is if you change the order of the clauses.

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