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    Question Urgent Help!!!!

    What is the difference in meaning between
    I believe this to be a good idea
    or
    I believe this is a good idea

    Thanks in in advance.

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    Re: Urgent Help!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Arrilucea View Post
    What is the difference in meaning between
    I believe this to be a good idea
    or
    I believe this is a good idea

    Thanks in in advance.
    Hello Arrilucea! Welcome board!

    Once I read your sentences I felt a difference between them which I could not explain exactly. If I were to rewrite those 2 sentences I would write:

    1- possibly this is a good idea.
    2- In my opinion this is a good idea.

    I think that the stress in "I believe this to be good idea" is more on the idea itself. In the second sentence ("I believe this is a good idea") there is more stress on your opinion than the first sentence. I also recommend you to take a look at this page:
    Definition and pronunciation of believe | Oxford Advanced Learners Dictionary

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    Re: Urgent Help!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Arrilucea View Post
    What is the difference in meaning between
    I believe this to be a good idea
    or
    I believe this is a good idea

    Thanks in in advance.
    They mean the same to me.

    Rover

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    Re: Urgent Help!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rover_KE View Post
    They mean the same to me.

    Rover
    The same for me, but when you start to find the difference usually you find one which could be even senseless!

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    Re: Urgent Help!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Arrilucea View Post
    What is the difference in meaning between
    I believe this to be a good idea
    or
    I believe this is a good idea

    Thanks in in advance.
    I am not a teacher.

    They mean the same thing. The difference is in the grammar. In the first, the object of "believe" is an infinitive clause, "this to be a good idea", with "this" as subject and "idea" as object. In the second, the object is a subordinate clause with an understood "that": "that this is a good idea".

    There is a semantic difference between the two uses of "believe" that I can't put my finger on, but it doesn't make the meanings of the two sentences different. The first is more "active", for want of a better word. It's something like the difference in "wish" between "We wish you a Merry Christmas" and "We wish that you should have a Merry Christmas."

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    Re: Urgent Help!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Coolfootluke View Post
    I am not a teacher.


    There is a semantic difference between the two uses of "believe" that I can't put my finger on, but it doesn't make the meanings of the two sentences different. The first is more "active", for want of a better word. It's something like the difference in "wish" between "We wish you a Merry Christmas" and "We wish that you should have a Merry Christmas."
    Yes. "wish" is a good example I think.

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    Re: Urgent Help!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rover_KE View Post
    They mean the same to me.

    Rover
    And the same to me as well.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: Urgent Help!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    And the same to me as well.
    Thanks Barb.

    I was beginning to wonder if I was missing something.

    Rover
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