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    An Englist teacher said that, we only use either kindly or please in once sentence.

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    1) Would you kindly advise me the best way to deal with this problem.

    2) Would you please advise me the best way to deal with this problem.



    Do you agree that I cannnot say :

    Would you kindly advise me the best way to deal with this problem, please.


    Thanks.

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    1. Do not use 'kindly' and 'please' in the same sentence.
    2. Do not use 'kindly' as a synonym for 'please' - ever. 'Kindly' can give an impression of annoyance or impatience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fivejedjon View Post
    1. Do not use 'kindly' and 'please' in the same sentence.
    2. Do not use 'kindly' as a synonym for 'please' - ever. 'Kindly' can give an impression of annoyance or impatience.
    But I always see kindly in commercial correspondence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ju View Post
    But I always see kindly in commercial correspondence.
    Lots of people do.

    That doesn't make it sound any better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ju View Post
    But I always see kindly in commercial correspondence.
    I have noticed that it's often used by Asian users of English, especially those from India and Pakistan. You won't often see it in other English-speaking countries. (Which doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It's simply rare in the non-ironic sense.)

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    A couple of other thoughts on the subject: The use of 'kindly'

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    Oh my... Thanks for the thread, Ju, and for the link, 5jj! I used to write 'kindly' in faxes and emails... I hope our company's foreign partners did't think me condescending and annoyed. I guess 'Will you be so kind to send us...." has the same connotations, doesn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verona_82 View Post
    Oh my... Thanks for the thread, Ju, and for the link, 5jj! I used to write 'kindly' in faxes and emails... I hope our company's foreign partners did't think me condescending and annoyed. I guess 'Will you be so kind to send us...." has the same connotations, doesn't it?
    Not necessarily. This one is often used without irony. I would only change "to send" to "and send" or "as to send".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ju View Post
    But I always see kindly in commercial correspondence.
    Okay, so when you tell your friend some word which is always seen in commercial correspondence, How is she supposed to feel about it? That you treat her cold.

    Macmillan dictionary also says that we say "kindly" when we want to hide that we are annoyed". people in commerce hide things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ju View Post
    An Englist teacher said that, we only use either kindly or please in once sentence.

    eg.

    1) Would you kindly advise me the best way to deal with this problem.

    2) Would you please advise me the best way to deal with this problem.



    Do you agree that I cannnot say :

    Would you kindly advise me the best way to deal with this problem, please.


    Thanks.
    According to the Quirkian taxonomic system of adverbials, "please" and "kindly" belong to the adverbial subclass of courtesy subjuncts.

    Courtesy subjuncts are chiefly realized by a small group of adverbs used in rather formulaic expressions of politeness and propriety. The most common are exemplified below :
    He kindly offered me a ride.
    We cordially invite you to our party.
    She announced that she will graciously consent to our request.
    Take a seat please.
    Will you kindly address a few words to the new students?
    Note how the position of "kindly" affects meaning here:
    He kindly offered me a ride. -- courtesy subjunct (he graciously consented to my request)
    He offered me a ride kindly. -- manner adjunct (he offered me a ride in a polite manner)

    Here, either subjunct conveys a formulaic tone of politeness:
    Take a seat please.
    Will you kindly take a seat.

    Passengers are kindly requested to refrain from smoking.
    Dear passengers, please refrain from smoking.

    1. Do not use 'kindly' and 'please' in the same sentence.


    Do not use 'kindly' as a synonym for 'please' - ever.


    'Kindly' can give an impression of annoyance or impatience.

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