I agree- American speaker
I agree- British speaker
I agree- Canadian speaker
I agree- non-native speaker
I disagree- American speaker
I disagree- British speaker
I disagree- Canadian speaker
I disagree- non-native speaker
I agree- other
I disagree- other
I use it all the time in academic research, in the first person, both singular and plural.
Last edited by Williamyh; 02-Dec-2009 at 09:55.
If you have just conquered a kingdom, you would say, "This kingdom shall fall." Neither "should" nor "will" delivers the same strength or meaning.
Well, the way they teach kids in Russian schools, "shall" is used with the pronouns "I" and "we". When I came back to Russia in 2009 after having lived in the US for 10 straight years, I started to wince at this usage. So my question is: ""If you tell the Queen or Margaret Thatcher 'I shall drink a toast to the well-being of this country' instead of saying 'I will ...', will either of them wince at me for my choice of the word? If at least one of them okays it, I won't care what the rest of the planet's inhabitants think, although I must admit I use "will" all the time. I use "shall" when translating agreements/contracts from Russian into English.
In the US, "shall" has fallen out of use in common speech as far as I can tell and is now mostly relegated to legal documents and academic papers.
(PS --- I realize the quoted comment is over 4 years old, but I saw no response to it in the thread, so I though I might put in my two cents.)
Corregidor island and they have a statue of General MacArthur with the quote I shall return- I suppose that this was rhetorical language but it still sounded odd to hear it used by an American speaker.
Hi, I work for a company in Asia, I see in official letters, they oftel use shall, i.e: "please note that the meeting shall be ...", however, I cannot distinguish between shall and will :(
In cases like that, there's no real difference in meaning. Shall sounds a bit more formal because it is used in legal documents.
Very interesting thread, this is. I'm a non native speaker, have to add that first, but I'm like brit influenced to an extent, in that i spent a year in a boarding school in England. So my perspective on language issues is rather Brit than american oriented. I do use the word "shall" and mainly so in questions, same as the TS implied., so its not solely but predominantly used in questions, that's what I think at least. I found it interesting to read some people and apparently even natives, responded saying they hadn't used the word in years or even decades.