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    This one is from a Canadian series "The lisener". It's about a paramedic who could read minds. So a person is about to be discharged from the hospital and goes like

    "What? They are going to kick me out of here already?!"

    I've heard people using it with past and present tenses. It's the first time with the future simple tense. Is it grammatically correct?
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    Question Re: future tenses+ready heard it

    Quote Originally Posted by ostap77 View Post
    This one is from a Canadian series "The lisener". It's about a paramedic who could read minds. So the is about to be discharged from the hospital and goes like

    "What? They are going to kick me out of here already?!"

    I've heard people using it with past and present tenses. It's the first time with the future simple tense. Is it grammatically correct?
    Everything's fine with that sentence. And I seem to have failed to notice a future tense being used in there. Didn't you actually mean the going-to construction instead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by engee30 View Post
    Everything's fine with that sentence. And I seem to have failed to notice a future tense being used in there. Didn't you actually mean the going-to construction instead?
    Yes! Technically it's not a future tense but we use talk about future events.
    Sorry for the typo. I meant "a person". So "I will be/I'm going to be boiling it for 5 min alreday" is OK as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ostap77 View Post
    Yes! Technically it's not a future tense but we use talk about future events.
    Sorry for the typo. I meant "a person". So "I will be boiling it for 5 min alreday" is OK as well?
    Already can also be used with other tenses than just the two you've mentioned, as long as you mean that what is/has been/will be expected to happen happens before the expected time.

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    Default Re: future tenses+ready heard it

    Quote Originally Posted by ostap77 View Post
    Yes! Technically it's not a future tense but we use talk about future events.
    Sorry for the typo. I meant "a person". So "I will be/I'm going to be boiling it for 5 min alreday" is OK as well?
    "I'm going to be/will be boiling it for five minutes already" is very poor English.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    "I'm going to be/will be boiling it for five minutes already" is very poor English.
    Couldn't agree more.
    Sorry ostap77 - I never commented on your sentence because I was merely focusing on the adverb already and its usage.

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    Default Re: future tenses+ready heard it

    I am not a teacher.

    "Already" has two standard meanings. The first definition in the AHD on line is: "By this or a specified time; before: 'The children were already asleep when we got home.'" This would not work in your sentence: "What? They are going to kick me out of here by this time?!"

    The second is: "So soon: 'Are you quitting already?'" This would work: "What? They are going to kick me out of here so soon?!" This "going to" is not really future, it expresses volition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolfootluke View Post
    I am not a teacher.

    "Already" has two standard meanings. The first definition in the AHD on line is: "By this or a specified time; before: 'The children were already asleep when we got home.'" This would not work in your sentence: "What? They are going to kick me out of here by this time?!"

    The second is: "So soon: 'Are you quitting already?'" This would work: "What? They are going to kick me out of here so soon?!" This "going to" is not really future, it expresses volition.
    How about the third meaning? 3)Nonstandard Used as an intensive: Be quiet already. Enough already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ostap77 View Post
    How about the third meaning? 3)Nonstandard Used as an intensive: Be quiet already. Enough already.
    I am not a teacher.

    I ignored that for our purposes. I think of it as a Yiddishism (whether it is or not), not that there is anything wrong with that, but it is not a core meaning.

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    Default Re: future tenses+ready heard it

    Quote Originally Posted by Coolfootluke View Post
    I am not a teacher.

    I ignored that for our purposes. I think of it as a Yiddishism (whether it is or not), not that there is anything wrong with that, but it is not a core meaning.
    I'm getting sidetracked but I've been hearing a lot of "already" at the end of a sentence. "Give me that already!" and "Nothing that we don't know already."
    Presumably the speakers were not of the Jewish origin.

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