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    Default "nor" to introduce another negative sentence

    1)"They won't pay you back either the principal bond or interest on the due date."

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    2)"They will pay you back neither the principal bond nor interest on the due date."

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    3)''The won't pay you back the principal bond nor will you get paid interest on the due date."

    Some smart..s in my class told me that the use of "nor" in sentence 3) is incorrect and that it can only be used with "neither" as in sentence 2). What do you think of these sentences?

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    Default Re: "nor" to introduce another negative sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by ostap77 View Post
    1)"They won't pay you back either the principal bond or interest on the due date."

    2)"They will pay you back neither the principal bond nor interest on the due date."

    3)''They won't pay you back the principal bond on the due date, nor will you get paid interest."
    They are all fine, though I would write 'the interest due' in #1 and #2. Note my repositioning of 'on the due date' in #3. An alternative would be:

    They won't pay you back the principal bond, nor will you get paid interest, on the due date.

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    Default Re: "nor" to introduce another negative sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by fivejedjon View Post
    They are all fine, though I would write 'the interest due' in #1 and #2. Note my repositioning of 'on the due date' in #3. An alternative would be:

    They won't pay you back the principal bond, nor will you get paid interest, on the due date.
    I guess 3) is good because when I use a negative sentence to express my thoughts and than something else comes to my mind I can easily introduce another with "nor".

    I must have been driving you up the wall by asking too many "natural questions" but I'm going to do it once again, which of the three is natural?
    Last edited by ostap77; 03-Mar-2011 at 07:57.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ostap77 View Post
    I must have been driving you up the wall by asking too many "natural questions" Not at all but I'm going to do it once again, which of the three is natural?
    If I had to pick one, I'd go for #1.

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    Default Re: "nor" to introduce another negative sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by fivejedjon View Post
    If I had to pick one, I'd go for #1.
    "They won't pay you back the principal bond or the interest on the due date." OK?

    Do you use "nor" without "neither" in conversation?
    Last edited by ostap77; 03-Mar-2011 at 08:28.

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    Default Re: "nor" to introduce another negative sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by ostap77 View Post
    "They won't pay you back the principal bond or get paid interest on the due date." OK?
    NO!

    "They won't pay you back the principal bond or the interest on the due date."
    or
    "You won't get back the principal bond or get paid interest on the due date."

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    Default Re: "nor" to introduce another negative sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by fivejedjon View Post
    NO!

    "They won't pay you back the principal bond or the interest on the due date."
    or
    "You won't get back the principal bond or get paid interest on the due date."
    Would these two be less formal than those in post#1?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ostap77 View Post
    Would these two be less formal than those in post#1?
    Marginally.

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    Default Re: "nor" to introduce another negative sentence

    hi,
    Please note I'm not a teacher nor a native speaker;

    Just a few thoughts.

    "They won't pay you back the principal bond or the interest on the due date."
    "You won't get back the principal bond or get paid interest on the due date."
    The two sentences, with or, to my mind introduce an alternative; so I'd expect to get one of the payments. Boolean logic hasn't got much to do with everyday language.

    "They won't pay you back the principal bond nor the interest on the due date."
    "You won't get back the principal bond nor get paid interest on the due date."
    With nor the meaning changes to "you won't get any payments"

    I guess 3) is good because when I use a negative sentence to express my thoughts and than something else comes to my mind I can easily introduce another with "nor".
    There are plenty of examples in BNC and COCA to confirm that statement.

    Do you use "nor" without "neither" in conversation?
    Uses of "nor" after negative "not" in conversations account to about ten percentage of all examples of such construction. That doesn't include other negative words such as never.

    cheers
    Last edited by Jaskin; 03-Mar-2011 at 14:54.

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    Default Re: "nor" to introduce another negative sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaskin View Post
    hi,
    Please note I'm not a teacher nor a native speaker;

    Just a few thoughts.


    The two sentences, with or, to my mind introduce an alternative; so I'd expect to get one of the payments. Boolean logic hasn't got much to do with everyday language.


    With nor the meaning changes to "you won't get any payments"


    There are plenty of examples in BNC and COCA to confirm that statement.


    Uses of "nor" after negative "not" in conversations account to about ten percentage of all examples of such construction. That doesn't include other negative words such as never.

    cheers
    I was just going to ask you, would I be showing smarts or sound "unnecessarily educated" if I used "nor" to introduce another negative sentence in a friendly chat?

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