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    /ʒ/ sound

    Dear all,

    Are there words in English that begins with the /ʒ/ sound? All I have found is /dʒ/ sound, and it seems to me that there is no /ʒ/ at the begining.

    I will be waiting for your reply.

    Thanks a lot.

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    Re: /ʒ/ sound

    genre can be pronounced with /ʒ/
    Last edited by nyota; 07-Mar-2011 at 17:43.

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    Re: /ʒ/ sound

    Quote Originally Posted by maiabulela View Post
    Dear all,

    Are there words in English that begins with the /ʒ/ sound? All I have found is /dʒ/ sound, and it seems to me that there is no /ʒ/ at the begining.

    I will be waiting for your reply.

    Thanks a lot.
    I am not a teacher.

    English has some French words and terms in it that have retained their French pronunciation to some extent. "Mot juste" is one, and the "juste" starts that way. Zsa Zsa Gabor, too. I can't think of any regular English word that begins with that sound.

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    Re: /ʒ/ sound

    Quote Originally Posted by Coolfootluke View Post
    I can't think of any regular English word that begins with that sound.
    I don't think there are any. The only other reasonably common word I can think of from French is gigolo. I did find gigue, a lively piece of music, and jabot, a frill on the front of a shirt, but these are not very common.

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    Re: /ʒ/ sound

    From French we also have "au jus".

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    Re: /ʒ/ sound

    Quote Originally Posted by fivejedjon View Post
    I don't think there are any [CFL: 'regular English word']. The only other reasonably common word I can think of from French is gigolo. I did find gigue, a lively piece of music, and jabot, a frill on the front of a shirt, but these are not very common.
    It depends what you mean by 'English word'. We've already had 'genre'. (I know that's French, but where do you draw the line? If you define 'regular' as 'conforming to the rules' [regula = 'rule] then what...? But it remains true that if you did a Wug test - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia with nonsense words starting with a g or a j you'd never hear a // - or at least very rarely {if the nonsense word looked as though it might be foreign })

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    Re: /ʒ/ sound

    Quote Originally Posted by BobK View Post
    It depends what you mean by 'English word'. We've already had 'genre'. (I know that's French, but where do you draw the line? If you define 'regular' as 'conforming to the rules' [regula = 'rule] then what...? But it remains true that if you did a Wug test - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia with nonsense words starting with a g or a j you'd never hear a // - or at least very rarely {if the nonsense word looked as though it might be foreign })

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    I am not a teacher, nor am I a linguist.

    OK, "regular" isn't cutting it---I was shooting from the hip. How about "fully anglicized"? I pronounce nyota's "genre" with the soft "j", and that is fully anglicized. The others, like "gigolo" get the hard "j" from me.

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    Re: /ʒ/ sound

    'Fully anglicized' works for me

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    Re: /ʒ/ sound

    hey! I've got a question. few weeks ago I had had a test in English phonetics and phonology, I was asked about "ʒ" distibution and had no idea what to say, I tried to find some info on Internet but I failed and haven't found anything. :(

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    Re: /ʒ/ sound

    is it
    Free variation

    Complementary distribution

    Contrastive distribution

    and why
    (I continued researching, found this ;)

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