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    #1

    shouldn't be supposed to

    We shouldn't be supposed to have fun when it comes to such serious matters.

    Can we use the construction of 'shouldn't be supposed to' (with the repeated meaning of 'should')?

    Thank you in advance.
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    #2

    Re: shouldn't be supposed to

    Not a teacher,

    Why not? I think it's acceptable. At least it's not wrong.

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    #3

    Re: shouldn't be supposed to

    I do not recommend this usage, but it seems acceptable in such situations as:

    Luke: From what the Director said, it seems that we are supposed to have fun when we interview prospective trainees.
    Emma: We shouldn't be supposed to have fun when it comes to such serious matters.

    The italicised words would probably be emphasised.

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    #4

    Re: shouldn't be supposed to

    I can't think of any reason for using it in the ordinary case, when it's just meant to mean 'we shouldn't'; at best it's unnecessarily confusing.

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    #5

    Re: shouldn't be supposed to

    Quote Originally Posted by joham View Post
    We shouldn't be supposed to have fun when it comes to such serious matters.

    Can we use the construction of 'shouldn't be supposed to' (with the repeated meaning of 'should')?

    Thank you in advance.
    It's rather awkward, I agree. If repeated meaning is what you are looking for, try shouldn't be allowed to.

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    #6

    Re: shouldn't be supposed to

    There is a case for using it when 'supposed' means something else: 'A man who offers to referee his son's football team on a Saturday morning shouldn't be supposed to be a paedophile until he's undergone (and sometimes paid for) a CRB check'.

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    Re: shouldn't be supposed to

    Quote Originally Posted by BobK View Post
    There is a case for using it when 'supposed' means something else: 'A man who offers to referee his son's football team on a Saturday morning shouldn't be supposed to be a paedophile until he's undergone (and sometimes paid for) a CRB check'.
    Good one.

    As you say, 'supposed' means something else - more like 'believed'.

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    Re: shouldn't be supposed to

    I am not a teacher.

    My first instinct was to make it, "We aren't supposed to have fun when it comes to such serious matters." BobK's variation aside, the original is pretty wrong looking.

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    #9

    Re: shouldn't be supposed to

    Quote Originally Posted by Coolfootluke View Post
    My first instinct was to make it, "We aren't supposed to have fun when it comes to such serious matters." BobK's variation aside, the original is pretty wrong looking.
    I agree. However, it's possible, in my opinion.

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