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    Post some and any in this case gets me mad!

    hello everyone, just step in with a terrible puzzle and wish someone could help me with.

    1-- Do you want some orange juice?
    Yes, i want some orange juice.
    No, i don not want any orange juice.


    2--Do do want any orange juice?
    Yes, i want some orange juice.
    No, i do not want any orange juice.

    Please, could you help me to check out the mistake in the questions and answers in both 1 and 2 above if there's any.
    thanks a lot.

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    Default Re: some and any in this case gets me mad!

    First, take a look at the chart at the end of the page here. Note, any is also used in questions; e.g., Do you have any?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soup View Post
    First, take a look at the chart at the end of the page here. Note, any is also used in questions; e.g., Do you have any?


    Thanks once again mr soup. i did got all from the end of the page as u directed me to find out for myself.
    "" As i was reading through, i saw an exception which says: We use "some" in questions when offering or requesting something that is there. .Example: Would you like some bread? (offer) - Could I have some water? (request)e.g (1) Do you want some orange juice? (the only answer here must be yes. there is no choice or chance to refuse the offer ) Still want to know the negative answer!
    thanks once again.

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    Default Re: some and any in this case gets me mad!

    Quote Originally Posted by eddy143 View Post
    As i was reading through, i saw an exception which says: We use "some" in questions when offering or requesting something that is there. .Example: Would you like some bread? (offer) - Could I have some water? (request)e.g (1) Do you want some orange juice? (the only answer here must be yes. there is no choice or chance to refuse the offer Still want to know the negative answer!
    Your conclusion, which I have underlined, is incorrect. If somebody says to me, "Do you want / Would you like... some water?", they may have no idea whether I want some, and I am completely free to accept or decline the offer.

    ps. Please try to use capital letters when they should be used; the first person subject pronoun is I, not i.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddy143 View Post
    Thanks once again mr soup. i did got all from the end of the page as u directed me to find out for myself.
    "" As i was reading through, i saw an exception which says: We use "some" in questions when offering or requesting something that is there. .Example: Would you like some bread? (offer) - Could I have some water? (request)e.g (1) Do you want some orange juice? (the only answer here must be yes. there is no choice or chance to refuse the offer ) Still want to know the negative answer!
    thanks once again.


    ***** NOT A TEACHER *****


    (1) Do you want some orange juice?

    Polite: (a) No, thank you.

    (b) No, I don't, but thank you anyway.

    Rude:

    (c) No!!!

    (d) No, I don't!!!

    (e) No, I don't want some orange juice!!!(NOTE: We use "any" in a negative sentence, but this person wants to be super rude, so s/he uses the same word that you used and s/he pronounces it loudly.)

    *****

    (2) Would you like some bread?

    Polite:

    (a) No, thank you.

    (b) No, thanks.

    Rude:

    (c) No!!!

    (d) No, I wouldn't!!!

    (e) No, I wouldn't like some bread!!!

    *****

    (3) Could I have some water?

    Polite:

    (a) No, I'm afraid not. The water is full of insects today.

    (b) I'm sorry but the water is full of insects today.

    Rude:

    (c) No!!!

    (d) No you couldn't!!!

    (3) No, you couldn't have some water!!!

    NOTES:

    (1) If you refuse an offer or request, do not repeat the modal

    auxiliary (such as would and could). It can sound rude or

    aggressive -- depending on the tone of your voice.

    (2) When you refuse a request, apologize and give a reason.

    (3) If you give a very short answer (one word) or a very long

    answer (repeating all the words in the question), this can mean that

    you are angry.

    *****

    Sources:

    Longman English Grammar

    Google "There is a special group of verbs called modals (modal
    auxiliaries)."

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