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    Default Re: til till and until

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    I can't imagine why anybody would want to write "till", unless they are writing about agriculture "till the soil" or about the till (cash register) in a shop. Why not write "until" in most situations, reserving the rather poetic (to my mind) 'til for literary/poetic efforts.
    Well, people do. The COD lists till (but not 'til), adding the usage note: "In all sense, till can be replaced by until, which is more formal in style".

    Swan says that the two words "mean exactly the same. Till (AmE also til) is informal."

    In the third edition (1996) of Fowler's Modern English Usage, Burchfield writes, "It is not true that till is a shortened version of until: in fact, till is the earlier of the two. [...]. The evidence tends to confirm that till is sometimes the informal equivalent of until, but also that in many contexts the two words are simply interchangeable without affecting the stylistic level".

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    Default Re: til till and until

    Quote Originally Posted by fivejedjon View Post
    Well, people do. The COD lists till (but not 'til), adding the usage note: "In all sense, till can be replaced by until, which is more formal in style".

    Swan says that the two words "mean exactly the same. Till (AmE also til) is informal."

    In the third edition (1996) of Fowler's Modern English Usage, Burchfield writes, "It is not true that till is a shortened version of until: in fact, till is the earlier of the two. [...]. The evidence tends to confirm that till is sometimes the informal equivalent of until, but also that in many contexts the two words are simply interchangeable without affecting the stylistic level".
    Yes, I know it's used and I know it's correct. It's just that I don't like it.

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