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    Cool the blind

    Hello there!

    We say:

    -The dead

    -The blind

    -The deaf

    But can we say

    -The youngers and the olders

    Thank you very much

    Will

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    Re: the blind

    Quote Originally Posted by Will17 View Post
    Hello there!

    We say:

    -The dead

    -The blind

    -The deaf

    But can we say

    -The youngers and the olders

    Thank you very much

    Will
    No. We say "the young and the old"
    or
    "the youth (youngsters) and the elders"

    What is the relation to the dead, the deaf and the blind?


    EDIT: add "the elderly"; see fivejedjon's comment below
    Last edited by freezeframe; 30-Mar-2011 at 03:16.

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    Re: the blind

    Quote Originally Posted by freezeframe View Post
    We say [...] "the elders"
    I would never say that unless I were talking about people treated with great respect, and having some sort of authority, in certain communities, or holding some kind of official position in some churches.

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    Re: the blind

    Quote Originally Posted by fivejedjon View Post
    I would never say that unless I were talking about people treated with great respect, and having some sort of authority, in certain communities, or holding some kind of official position in some churches.

    Agreed.
    In the absence of any kind of context I entertained that possibility.

    I probably should have said "the elderly".
    Last edited by freezeframe; 30-Mar-2011 at 03:16.

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    Re: the blind

    "Respect your elders!" in this case it refers to any older person.




    Not a teacher.

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    Re: the blind

    Quote Originally Posted by SanMar View Post
    "Respect your elders!" in this case it refers to any older person.


    What about "Respect the elders"?

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    Re: the blind

    Quote Originally Posted by freezeframe View Post
    What about "Respect the elders"?

    No, never heard of that as a common saying. As a sentence it suggests the meaning that Fivejedjon mentioned above (post #3).

    :)

    Not a teacher.

    ps If you want it to mean older people in general you could say "Respect the elderly" but it is not a common saying either, at least not where I live in Canada.
    Last edited by SanMar; 30-Mar-2011 at 07:06. Reason: forgot

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    Re: the blind

    Quote Originally Posted by SanMar View Post
    "Respect your elders!" in this case it refers to any older person..
    We also have elders and betters - Idioms - by the Free Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.. However, these are best regarded as idioms. Normally we would not use 'elders' for older people; it's 'the elderly' or 'the old'.

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    Re: the blind

    Also, whille we do say the blind, etc, people are moving more towards saying things like blind people. This way, they are people first and foremost.

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