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    Is concessive clause like the following rarely used? We've learned it as one of the usages of participle phrases, but don't they use it a lot? I'm not sure if I have heard or seen a lot, but it's confusing as my grammar book says like that.

    ex)Admitting what you say.(Though I admit what), I still don't believe it
    Being rich(Though I am rich), I am not happy.

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    Default Re: admitting what you say,...

    Quote Originally Posted by keannu View Post
    Is concessive clause like the following rarely used? We've learned it as one of the usages of participle phrases, but don't they use it a lot? I'm not sure if I have heard or seen a lot, but it's confusing as my grammar book says like that.

    ex)Admitting what you say.(Though I admit what), I still don't believe it
    Being rich(Though I am rich), I am not happy.
    I don't have any statistical data on the frequency of usage.

    But, when I read "Being rich, I am not happy", I'm more inclined to interpret it as "I am not happy because I'm rich" and not as "I am not happy although I'm rich".

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    Default Re: admitting what you say,...

    not teacher

    Admitting, or allowing that what you say is true(Though I admit that what you say is true), I still don't believe it
    Being rich, I am not happy, is unacceptable, it's like saying that being rich automatically makes one unhappy.
    Though I am rich, I am not happy. Makes sense because of though.
    Obviously, being rich should make one happy, so though or despite or even though are needed.
    I am rich - yet unhappy.

    I am neither rich nor happy.

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    Default Re: admitting what you say,...

    Admitting carries a meaning that conveys the concession and makes the meaning clear, while being rich doesn't- it doesn't work for me and I get the same ambiguity as Freezeframe.

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    Default Re: admitting what you say,...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    Admitting carries a meaning that conveys the concession and makes the meaning clear, while being rich doesn't- it doesn't work for me and I get the same ambiguity as Freezeframe.
    I just want to know if participle phrase as concession in the meaning of "although" has been disappearing, rarely used.

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