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    We learn in grammar that when the action started a while before the time of speakinig and continues (also in the negative) up to that moment (with for or since), you have to use a perfect tense.
    Now, I found this sentence that puzzled me:

    I don't smoke anymore since quite recently,

    because, applying the rule, I would have said

    I haven't smoked anymore since quite recently

    Am I wrong?

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    Default Re: duration form

    Quote Originally Posted by licinio View Post
    We learn in grammar that when the action started a while before the time of speakinig and continues (also in the negative) up to that moment (with for or since), you have to use a perfect tense.
    Now, I found this sentence that puzzled me:

    I don't smoke anymore since quite recently,

    because, applying the rule, I would have said

    I haven't smoked anymore since quite recently

    Am I wrong?
    I haven't smoked... implies that they might smoke again at some later time.
    They don't smoke anymore. They gave up smoking. Now they're not a smoker.

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    Default Re: duration form

    I don't smoke anymore since quite recently.

    = Not a Teacher=

    This sentence seems to me most unnatural. I do not think it is possible to use the present simple with "since" in this way. I also think that "any more" must be two words.

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    Default Re: duration form

    Quote Originally Posted by curates-egg View Post
    I don't smoke anymore since quite recently.

    = Not a Teacher=

    This sentence seems to me most unnatural. I do not think it is possible to use the present simple with "since" in this way. I also think that "any more" must be two words.
    It's so easy to avoid embarrassing yourself like this by doing a quick dictionary check.
    anymore - definition of anymore by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

    Anyhow (one word), to the point, licino:
    You can say, "I haven't smoked since [time]", but 'anymore' or 'any more' don't belong with that tense.

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    Default Re: duration form

    Any more can be two words. Just not here.

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