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I'm so sorry, I was looking on the map and really contemplating the drive, the gas costs, my sanity and have come to the conclusion that I should've listened to your concerns more earnestly. You are right, the distance just isn't feasible.

I'm going for a kind of deadpan effect with the in-line statement "the drive, the gas costs, my sanity".
Should I place a comma after sanity?
 

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I would put a comma after 'my sanity'. Definitely.
 

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I'm so sorry, I was looking on the map and really contemplating the drive, the gas costs, my sanity and have come to the conclusion that I should've listened to your concerns more earnestly. You are right, the distance just isn't feasible.

I'm going for a kind of deadpan effect with the in-line statement "the drive, the gas costs, my sanity".
Should I place a comma after sanity?


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(1) Very nice sentence.

(2) I would rewrite it as:

I am so sorry. I was looking at the map and really contemplating

the drive, the cost, and my sanity. I have come to the conclusion

that I should've listened to your concerns more earnestly.


OR:

...really contemplating the drive, the costs, and my sanity, and I have

come to ....


The above is only my opinion.
 

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Thanks. I really like the deadpan effect leaving out the 'and' before sanity. How about this one? Are the red commas correct?

I was looking on the map, contemplating the drive, the cost of gas, my sanity, and have come to the conclusion that...

 

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Thanks. I really like the deadpan effect leaving out the 'and' before sanity. How about this one? Are the red commas correct?

I was looking on the map, contemplating the drive, the cost of gas, my sanity, and have come to the conclusion that...



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Hopefully a professional writer will answer you -- and me.

Have a nice day.

James

 

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There's no need for a professional writer. :)

This may be the ticket:

I was looking at the map and contemplating the drive, the cost of gas, my sanity, and I have come to the conclusion that...
 

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There's no need for a professional writer. :)

This may be the ticket:

I was looking at the map and contemplating the drive, the cost of gas, my sanity, and I have come to the conclusion that...



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(1) You are correct in the sense that you, as a writer, may write

anything you wish. In fact, I think that some of the greatest

writers in English have broken the rules. But, as I understand it,

one may break the rules only after s/he knows that a rule is

being broken.

(2) I cannot put my finger on it, but your sentence seems

to lead your reader astray (just a little tiny bit).

(3) Let me try to explain:

(a) Look at this sentence: I am contemplating the drive, the

cost of gas, the sanity, and I have come to the conclusion that ....

(i) The sentence seems -- at first reading -- to say that you

are contemplating 4 things: the drive, the cost of gas, the

sanity, and I have come to the conclusion.

(ii) As you know, the first three are nouns, and the fourth is a sentence.

For example, would you agree that the following is infelicitous (not

a "happy" use of words):

I like ice cream, pie, candy, and I am now baking some donuts. (It

seems to say that I like four things.)

Woudn't it be clearer to write:

I like ice cream, pie, and candy. I am now baking some donuts.

OR

I like ice cream, pie, and candy, and I am now baking some donuts.

(4) As I said, a writer may write anything s/he wishes. But I have

read that if a writer loses his/her reader (that is, if a reader has to

stop and think what the writer is trying to say), then the writer

has "failed."

(4) You do not wish to use "and" in front of "my sanity." You say that

it gives a "deadpan" sense. Well, then, you should do what you wish.

I am sure that every reader would understand what you wish to express.


Best of luck to you on your writing career.


James
 

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Based on the language I conclude that the context is an email or letter that you're writing to a friend. With that in mind, here's how I would correct your sentence to maintain the 'deadpan' effect as you call it:

"I'm so sorry, I was looking on the map and really contemplating the drive/gas costs/my sanity and have come to the conclusion that I should've listened to your concerns more earnestly. You are right, the distance just isn't feasible."

(I'm not a teacher but I do have an English degree and write for a living.)
 

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I think that's too business-y. (Though it *is* in reference to a job interview, I still don't like the matter-of-factness feeling of the slashes.)
 

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But, as I understand it,

one may break the rules only after s/he knows that a rule is

being broken.
I think it's all about how the reader interprets it. A reader may think the writer knew the rules and knew how to break them for effect. Or vice versa. Or any other combination between writer/reader.

Case in point:

I like ice cream, pie, candy, and I am now baking some donuts. (It

seems to say that I like four things.)
Not to me it doesn't. It says you like sweets, and because of that fact you're baking some donuts.
 

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I think that's too business-y. (Though it *is* in reference to a job interview, I still don't like the matter-of-factness feeling of the slashes.)

See, to me the slashes are quite a casual and non-standard form of punctuation, making them ungrammatical even, so I wouldn't use them in business correspondence or formal writing of any kind. I figured this was a casual piece of prose by the way you piled those reasons on top of each other, and the slashes felt right to me.

As you say, this is very much a question of personal interpretation, but if you read the sentence out loud, to me it feels the slashes convey perfectly the kind of pausing you'd need for your 'deadpan' effect.
 

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Maybe I didn't mean business-y, maybe I meant too cut and dried or scientific-appearing. (I think I have my own label system: deadpan, business-y, etc.)

What's really annoying is when people actually say the word "slash", as in your (and my) sentence. It's meant to be silent--though implied--in conversation, in my opinion. Saying quote/unquote is okay, but not slash! :)
 
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