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    Default /ɜ/ sound in American english

    Hey, guys.
    In American english, like the word earn, do you pronounce as ɜrn? I mean, firstly, you make the ɜ sound, followed by the r sound, last is the n sound.
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    Default Re: /ɜ/ , /ər/, /tn/ combination . /dn/ combination

    ɝ and ɚ are the same thing.

    To make the sound, just say ə and then the ɹ. You might find Wikipedia's audio sample helpful:
    R-colored vowel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    As for the /tn/ in mountain, you might find this video helpful:

    YouTube - ‪Lesson 14 - Glottal Stop - English Pronunciation‬‏

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    Default Re: /ɜ/ , /ər/, /tn/ combination . /dn/ combination

    Quote Originally Posted by thatone View Post
    ɝ and ɚ are the same thing.

    To make the sound, just say ə and then the ɹ. You might find Wikipedia's audio sample helpful:
    R-colored vowel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    As for the /tn/ in mountain, you might find this video helpful:

    YouTube - ‪Lesson 14 - Glottal Stop - English Pronunciation‬‏
    Well, Thank you! I appreciate it!
    Actually, I had watched another youtube video before I posted here.
    I was told to move my tongue to the position where you make the t sound, make the n sound without releasing it.
    As for the er sound as in dancer, I think I have to discuss with my Godmom or study myself. Thank you, anyway!

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    Default Re: /ɜ/ , /ər/, /tn/ combination . /dn/ combination

    Quote Originally Posted by DontBanMe View Post
    I was told to move my tongue to the position where you make the t sound, make the n sound without releasing it.
    If you do that you'll make a glottal stop. You'll be understood much better if you pronounce the 't' in mountain as /t/.

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    Default Re: /ɜ/ , /ər/, /tn/ combination . /dn/ combination

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    If you do that you'll make a glottal stop. You'll be understood much better if you pronounce the 't' in mountain as /t/.
    Okay, I'll give it a whirl. Thank you!
    But I still don't get used to putting my tongue on the alveolar ridge when making that /t/ sound. My mum said I look like a person who stutter.
    I think I ought to practise more and more.

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    Default Re: /ɜ/ , /ər/, /tn/ combination . /dn/ combination

    Quote Originally Posted by DontBanMe View Post
    Okay, I'll give it a whirl. Thank you!
    But I still don't get used to putting my tongue on the alveolar ridge when making that /t/ sound. My mum said I look like a person who stutter.
    I think I ought to practise more and more.
    Mothers aren't always right. What do other people say?
    And where do you put your tongue when you say a /t/ if not on the alveolar ridge? There are retroflex and dental /t/s, but they don't occur in English.

    PS: No disrespect meant to your mother, of course.

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    Default Re: /ɜ/ , /ər/, /tn/ combination . /dn/ combination

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    Mothers aren't always right. What do other people say?
    And where do you put your tongue when you say a /t/ if not on the alveolar ridge? There are retroflex and dental /t/s, but they don't occur in English.

    PS: No disrespect meant to your mother, of course.
    They didn't say anything as I didn't do like that in front of them.( it's so embarassing.)
    Well, I can sort of make that sound without pressing my front part of the tongue against the alveolar ridge. It's just very close to the alveolar ridge.
    But, I know I have to put my tongue on the alveolar ridge purposely so as to make that sound properly..
    No disrespect meant to your mother, of course.?I Don't care! She disrespected me first.. She was like, you're like a person who have speech disorder.

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